 |
|
03-18-2009, 03:12 PM
|
#1
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Blacksburg, VA
Posts: 426
|
how tall will plants get in the first year?
|
|
I've got Cascade and Willamette rhizomes to plant this year and was wondering how tall I can expect them to get the first year? I seem to recall reading somewhere that you can just use a 6-8 foot stake the first year...true or false?
Ultimately, I'm going to build a trellis system that will allow them to climb to 15 feet, but if I can put it off a year, I will!!
|
|
|
03-18-2009, 03:16 PM
|
#2
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Norwalk, Ohio
Posts: 10,280
|
I had first year hops last year. There was no usable yield, but they reached about 16 feet in length grown horizontally on a trellis. Other members had better results in their first year, some worse. There seems to be a ton of variables.
__________________
Why do they never tell you they are a guy until AFTER you put your hand up their skirt?
Last edited by Laughing_Gnome_Invisible; 03-18-2009 at 03:20 PM.
|
|
|
03-18-2009, 03:17 PM
|
#3
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: East Dundee, Illinois
Posts: 4,961
|
I trained my first year plants up some lines attached to the eve of my shop, about 10ft. I was able to get away with it, they just bushed up at the top. I'm sure they would have gone 15 ft or more if they'd had the room. This year it will be a 17 ft trellis, I bet they'll reach the top but I can't co much higher. I put two 10' fence poles together last night and stood them up in the yard, my gosh! It's higher than the power lines going to my house (shielded).
__________________
"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people." - V
Primary: Nothin
Secondary: Shady Lord RIS, Water to Barleywine, Pumpkin wine, burnt mead
Kegged: Crappy infected mild
Bottles: Apfelwein, 999 Barleywine, Oatmeal Stout, Robust Porter, Robust smoked porter, Simcoe Smash
|
|
|
03-18-2009, 03:27 PM
|
#4
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 1,667
|
I think climate and soil has a lot to do with it too...
Im willing to be that they will do better in the first year in Willamette Valley as opposed to somewhere in the South
__________________
"Dad, Bob broke your beer!"
Primary: air
Primary: Haus Pale Ale
Primary: air
Primary: air
Keg: air
Keg: air
Kegged: LightHaus Wheat, hopBOMB
Bottle: Terry Porter, Jubelale, MyBock, Edwort's Apfelwein, Saison!, ShookAle
Advice for posting
|
|
|
03-18-2009, 03:46 PM
|
#5
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Joliet, Il
Posts: 151
|
I'd say about 10 - 12 feet for my cascades and willamette. Almost no yield (2 oz) on the one willimatte and about 6-8 oz on the two cascade i had. I used a lattice suspended by 4 posts about 7-8 feet above the garden bed by 2X2 posts. Once the bines grew taller than that, it was no problem to wind them around the lattice and drape them across the top.
A lot depends on climate, soil and general growing conditions too though. Whats most important is to keep them off the ground. I've seen people grow them along fences and such too. as long as you're not growing a whole sh*t load of plants, be creative, use them ornamentaly as well as for brewing. I keep threatening to build some sort of pergola over my patio and use hops for the shade they'll provide.
|
|
|
03-18-2009, 04:18 PM
|
#6
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Northville, MI
Posts: 607
|
I planted Cascades and Willamette last year. Live in a condo so I couldn't get too elaborate without breaking the rules. I placed 2 trellises on my deck and let the hops climb up a cord and onto the trellis. That gave me about 8 feet off the ground. Once they reached the top, they just kept growing and winding around the trellis. I would say I probably had about 12 feet of growth overall.
|
|
|
03-18-2009, 04:50 PM
|
#7
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Central Jersey
Posts: 774
|
I'm planning on a 12 foot vertical trellis. I'm going to let all the bines grow but limit them to 12 feet in hopes that they bush up and promote flower growth.
__________________
Brewing Next: Stout
Fermenting: APA with Pils and Saaz, German Pilsner, DunkelWeizen
Kegged: APA
|
|
|
03-18-2009, 05:21 PM
|
#8
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: "Right Near The Beach", NJ
Posts: 472
|
I planted 7 last year and only 2 produced cones. But they all grew over 10ft. I yielded about 2oz off my nugget and .25oz off my Northern Brewer. Like others have said it all depends on the size of the rhizome, the soil and amount of sunlight.
__________________
Watts Brewing Co.
NJ
Fermenting: ESB
Drinking: Feelin' Witty(DH w/ Citra)
Watts Brewing Blog
|
|
|
03-18-2009, 07:25 PM
|
#9
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Blacksburg, VA
Posts: 426
|
Thanks for the replies, folks. Sounds like I'd better get my a$$ in gear on my trellis system!
|
|
|
03-19-2009, 05:07 PM
|
#10
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Indianapolis, IN, Indiana
Posts: 1,306
|
yeah my 1st years went 12-14 feet last year. They just sprouted this year and the bine looks really thick compared to last year. Hoping for a yield!
__________________
* My Bar Build
8-Paws Brewing Co.
On tap:
.
.
Secondary:
Primary:
. Fightin' Words Irish Red (10g)
On Deck:
. Heavenly Scourge Black IIPA
. Biermuncher's Nierra Sevada
Kegged:
.
Being a perfectionist does not make one perfect.
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
|
|