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Old 02-20-2012, 11:44 PM   #11
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Thanks for the info. Much appreciated. I do have one particular branch that should work for 2. It has a lot of clearance.
If not, I can hang them off the side of my house. I will try using a rigging I had for 12 ft beans before spending any money. Kinda like a hook and grommet setup. The grommet is on the end of the twine. I should be able to unhook and lower from above.

So what is the side effect of just staking them up 15 feet ?

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Old 02-20-2012, 11:58 PM   #12
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Great Lakes Hops out of Michigan has really stellar hop crowns...and even have a Canadian Red vine hop they sell...they are also on Facebook..I haven't bought from them yet but am going to add yo the six I have right now.

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Old 02-21-2012, 01:19 AM   #13
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So what is the side effect of just staking them up 15 feet ?
first year: probably not much, especially if you plant rhizomes.

subsequent years, as the plant gets stronger and has more stored up energy to start the growing season at full speed: the bines will flop over once they get to the top. i'm not sure what the impact of this is on the plant, other than the tips will likely try to pull a 180 and start climbing again. maybe this is stressful for the plant? maybe it won't make a difference? anyone with experience in this?
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Old 02-21-2012, 12:23 PM   #14
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first year: probably not much, especially if you plant rhizomes.

subsequent years, as the plant gets stronger and has more stored up energy to start the growing season at full speed: the bines will flop over once they get to the top. i'm not sure what the impact of this is on the plant, other than the tips will likely try to pull a 180 and start climbing again. maybe this is stressful for the plant? maybe it won't make a difference? anyone with experience in this?
So I could expect a small yield this year?
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Old 02-21-2012, 12:25 PM   #15
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You might get enough for a single batch in the first year, if you're lucky.

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new rhizomes typically don't produce much the first year. however, there was one member here (forget who) who stated that some of his first-years produced quite nicely. i believe that he said two of his five produced a pound each. so give 'em lots of love (and organic matter) and see what happens.

buying crowns instead of rhizomes will help avoid this issue altogether.

about growing downwards, read this: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f92/grow...ml#post3811231

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Old 02-21-2012, 05:49 PM   #17
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Ok, thats what I thought. I wasn't expecting anything this year, so if I do end up with some hops I will be more than happy. Well it turns out my tree branch realistically will not hold two bines neatly. Instead I am thinking I might see if I can run one along the farm fence that goes along my planter bed. Its 40 feet long by 5.5ft tall. It has 4 rows of wire running horizontal. So that would put two up along the house in the back garden, one from a tree and one along the fence. All in nice soil and a full day of sun. This should spread it out. I fear if I plant them too close they will grow into eachother making sorting a nightmare.

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Old 02-21-2012, 06:48 PM   #18
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+1 to Crannog Ales (Left Fields) in BC. They were very good. I was part of a group of guys that ordered from them and planted in Atlantic Canada. The North American varieties, especially the ones that were NOT certified organic, but all of the varieties grew very well except for one guy whose field flooded.

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Old 02-21-2012, 08:47 PM   #19
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Thats who I have placed my order with. Looking forward to this experiment.

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I grew hops for the first time last year with hops from left field. They did awesome and I got more than enough for 2 batches from 3 plants...unfortunately as I found out, first year hops often suck. I brewed 1 batch but it was pretty bad (very grassy). Rhisomes don't ship until the end of April and its really not enough time for them to grow, produce cones and ripen before the weather starts getting bad and a lot of mine just rotted on the bine. There are already shoots starting to poke out so hopefully this year will be good.

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