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sadbuttrue 03-14-2012 03:34 AM

Hop Strains - Southern California
 
So my house (which I'm renting out) now has a couple pitbulls living in the backyard, including a male that recently jumped into my (already somewhat hostile) neighbors backyard. Quite impressive, really.

In order to stop him from doing it int he future, his owner offered to setup a bunch of vine lattices/supports - an idea I embraced... under the premise that they be filled with hops.

I've never grown them before and am anxious to try. I do have some gardening experience... but growing vines (intentionally) will be new.

As I live in the San Fernando Valley, they'd ideally be somewhat heat and drought resistant (its pretty dry - though these will get plenty of water - and they'll get a decent share of sun, with summers in the mid 90s consistently). Something that thrives in East Oregon probably isn't gonna love my backyard. I do realize that its not the 'ideal' hop growing climate, but I'm sure some will grow. Anything?

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hxcpunk71 03-14-2012 05:52 AM

I've read that hops are extremely poisonous to dogs! I would hate to see somethin happen accidently, especially to some pittys. Sorry:(

sweetcell 03-14-2012 08:54 AM

oh boy. here we go - the hops'n'dogs debate. there is some disagreement about how prevalent the toxicity is. please read this before proceeding any further: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/dangers-hops-your-pets-108935/ (and then read page 2 of the thread linked in the last post). my reading on the situation is that dogs need a genetic predisposition to the toxicity. sorta like peanut allergies - very very few people have it, but those that do it's deadly. if you want to talk canine hop poisoning (or the lack thereof) please go to this thread: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/danger-hops-dogs-108663/index4.html. let's not start the same debate here, please.

getting back to the OP's question about hops that do well in hot dry climates: Cascade, Columbus, US Golding. Liberty and Nugget should also do well. for more info, see the link in my signature and check out the "Climate & Growing Conditions" column.

sadbuttrue 03-14-2012 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetcell
oh boy. here we go - the hops'n'dogs debate. there is some disagreement about how prevalent the toxicity is. please read this before proceeding any further: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/dangers-hops-your-pets-108935/ (and then read page 2 of the thread linked in the last post). my reading on the situation is that dogs need a genetic predisposition to the toxicity. sorta like peanut allergies - very very few people have it, but those that do it's deadly. if you want to talk canine hop poisoning (or the lack thereof) please go to this thread: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/danger-hops-dogs-108663/index4.html. let's not start the same debate here, please.

getting back to the OP's question about hops that do well in hot dry climates: Cascade, Columbus, US Golding. Liberty and Nugget should also do well. for more info, see the link in my signature and check out the "Climate & Growing Conditions" column.

Ha naturally. Thats the last thing id have expected to hear but thanks. Ive informed the owner of the dogs and we'll be talking to their vet to see if theyre predisposed or anything. If not, we may feed them a small sample under supervision to see how that goes.

Under the assumption is okay, ive heard its best to use a trellis. Do you use netting, rabbit wire, fish wire, wood, or other? How much water do they need? Do they like direct or inidrect su light? Any perscribed nutrient lineups?

Im sure theres a sticky about all that but sadly im at work and this site is blocked, so ig otta post on my phone which is a pain lol. Thanks!

sadbuttrue 03-15-2012 07:13 PM

Anybody? If theres a link to a good do it yourself guide you could point me to that alternatively

cram 03-15-2012 07:27 PM

Next to the varieties that sweetcell offered, I would add Chinook and Centennial to the list. Both seem to love hot and dry conditions. I'm not sure how much hops will deter an ambitious dog, though, but growing hops is a fun excuse to try.

Also, I wouldn't get too caught up in the hops and dogs hype. Many of us grow hops and have dogs without horror stories. In fact, my dogs seem to like the fresh shoots and leaves. The hop cones themselves are not very tasty (ever tried to eat one?) so our four-legged friends tend leave them alone...

BeerBeaver 03-15-2012 07:53 PM

Plant some Cascades, keep them watered properly, and stand back!

sadbuttrue 03-17-2012 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BeerBeaver (Post 3895931)
Plant some Cascades, keep them watered properly, and stand back!

How much is 'properly'? They'd mostly be fed by my lawn sprinklers...w hich go 3x a week for 10minutes. Do they need more? Less? Any nutrients/fertilizers?

Where do you buy them? Do they just come as seeds, clones or what?

Think I'll try Cascade, tough to go wrong with them. I have plenty of room to try a few though, both in direct and indirect sunlight.

cram 03-17-2012 08:03 PM

Deep water on slow drips would be better than sprinklers, so if you can dedicate a valve to a drip system that would be the way to go. In spring, Cost-Co carries these battery-operated, fully programable timer/valves that connect to a hose bib for about $30. They are a nice and simple automated option if there is a hose bib nearby. The valve is always under pressure, though, so of the dogs are destructive, then i might not go that route--I can only imagine a flooded backyard would not be fun to discover...

The plants will do better with some food--I'd stick to organic fertilizers or compost, though. And mulch will help conserve water, so a deep layer is nice.

You can't go wrong with Cascade. If I were to grow only one variety that would be my choice for social without question.

brewerelated 01-31-2013 06:55 PM

Do you guys think Glacier will grow well in Southern California? Hopefully my LHBS will stock some Glacier. I am interested in growing that variety. I don't have very much room to grow hops, so I am thinking of buying 1 or 2 rhizomes max. I was thinking maybe Glacier and Centennial or maybe Chinook.

I might buy one Rhizome and try to take cuttings from the extra bines that grow. I hope to trade the cuttings for cuttings of other varieties or Rhizomes from other varieties.


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