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Old 02-06-2008, 03:58 AM   #321
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Thanks man... I'm on it. looks cool


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Old 02-06-2008, 09:45 PM   #322
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I really wish I had gotten out of the habit of buying what I need, when I need it. When will I learn?

The guy at my LHBS said that they won't have ANY hallertauer until next year (if then). I rarely use those hops, but that still really worries me. And I had to sub two (out of three) kinds of hops for my next kind of brew. Well, at least I got the cascades, which are going to be the main players this time around. Mmmm, cascade hops!

Anyway, if I understand correctly, most of what caused the shortage was previous overproduction, which led to a massive price drop, which led to crops downsizing, and then there was a poor season that had a profound effect because of the lower acreage. Hasn't this same sort of thing been happening in agriculture since the dawn of agricultural economy? I'm no economist, but it seems to me like it would make more sense to plan things a little differently, bring in less revenue in the short-term, but make the market (and the farmers' livelyhood) more stable. Let's face it, the poor guys growing the hops are really getting the short end of the stick.

Then again, boom/bust cycles are kind of an inevitable part of capitalism. I guess it's just something you've gotta live with.



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Old 02-06-2008, 09:54 PM   #323
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...The guy at my LHBS said that they won't have ANY hallertauer until next year (if then). ...And I had to sub two (out of three) kinds of hops for my next kind of brew.
You’re looking at it all wrong…

Think of substituting hops like the six degrees of Kevin Bacon.

Hallertau sub includes: Tettnanger
Tettnanger sub includes: Fuggle
Fuggle sub includes: Willamette

Ergo…find some Willamette
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Old 02-06-2008, 10:01 PM   #324
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Ergo…find some Willamette
Which may be harder than you think...

AHS, where I usually order from - ~(Out of stock) Willamette Pellet Hops (1 oz) This product will be in stock on Saturday 31 January, 2009.

WTF, some of there hops are out until January 2010, seems a little extreme to me.
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Old 02-06-2008, 10:04 PM   #325
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Ergo…find some Willamette
Well, fine. Hallertauer can be replaced by Liberty. Liberty can be replaced by Mt. Hood. However, Mt. Hood can be replaced by Hersbrucker. Hersbrucker can then be replaced by Strisslespalt, which can be replaced by Crystal. Thusly, you could find some Crystal instead.

In summary, Conan did not make Huckabee - but in fact, Jon Stewart made Huckabee.

...Who later denounced that any one person made him, but in fact was made by America.
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Old 02-06-2008, 10:10 PM   #326
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...Thusly, you could find some Crystal instead.
And since Crystal starts with a "C" and all "C" hops are the same...just go ahead and use the Cascade you already have.
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The word I hear is that a 'boatload' of hops are on their way over from Germany. Apparently they are all claimed/bought. Hopefully some are bought by our dealers. Charlie

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Old 02-07-2008, 09:38 AM   #328
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preorder rhizomes

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Old 02-07-2008, 06:02 PM   #329
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Default Hop shortage my ...

Stocked up on everything last fall, but for various reasons i have not been brewing since last August.

So with a freezer full of hops and the "hop shortage" not really affecting prices and availability greatly over here i just threw 1.5 oz of hops in my secondary, so my 5 gal of IPA will have taken 6 oz all in all.

Then i come online to look at what my HBS have to offer on malt these days. I have not bought malt for 7-8 months as i buy my base malts in 50# sacks and really stock up on the special malts from time to time.

Now all the Weiermann malts cost 180-200% of what i paid last time

Well, only option now is to pay up, or start using corn or rice to stretch the malts

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Old 02-07-2008, 07:02 PM   #330
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Yep, it's all getting expensive!



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