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Old 04-12-2010, 04:45 PM   #1
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Default Growing Hops in Containers - New York, any tips

I plan to grow 3 rhizomes but have put off ordering because ive been having a hard time deciding on which 3. Ive been browsing the forums but cant find the right info.

I plan to be brewing more belgian strong ales in the future, (so i considered styrian goldings, saaz and hallertau) but they are all fussy growers. I thought about substituting with Fuggles and Mt Hood and skipping on a tettnang or us saaz.

It also seems that bittering hops are probably not the way to go, unless you dont mind approximating the aau's... for an ipa, i wouldnt mind...

If i plan to do a variety of styles, growing them in the suburbs of New York City in containers.. what hops could you recommend (if limited to 3). *i am container growing for the first season since our house is about to go on the market*

I am leaning toward cascade, fuggles and mt hood. Would these finishing/dual purpose hops be enough of a range to satisfy wheat beers, belgian strongs and ipa/apa's? I would be buying my bittering hops seperately of course. Unless theres a bittering hop that grows well and could fit the bill for a few diff recipes.

Just looking to cover my bases with a variety, add some more stuff to the garden, incorporate more local/homegrown ingredients while shaving some of the cost on my beers. -hops, -yeast, -extract should be a good price cut and help when it comes to those dubbels, tripels and quads.

Any advice or tips from some New Yorkers or brewers from the North East would be extremely helpful!

Thanks in advance!

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Old 04-12-2010, 09:57 PM   #2
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whatever varieties you choose, be prepared for daily watering on the order of 5 gallons PER plant.

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Old 04-12-2010, 10:49 PM   #3
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im in a similar situation, i just used a 27gallon heavy duty tote from home depot, using the lid as the base, i drilled the thing out all over the bottom for draining, and put a rhizome in, and its popped up just yesterday, planted about a week ago. Cascade hop.

Im thinking of just getting a nice fat rhizome going for when i go to outdoor planting. A lhbs just gave me a piece he ripped off a giant root he had and whoalla free hops.

Im also going to fabricate a cart to set it on so i can move it later on and will only go as high as my door opening and then bend it down and up as many times as required to keep it going.

should be fun. It will smell nice in the summer.

I only put 1 rhizome in the container, i only want one plant per planter

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Old 04-12-2010, 11:36 PM   #4
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I went through similar machinations here. I mostly brew low to moderate strength ales in the British, Belgian and occasionally American styles. I wound up planting goldings, mt hood and cascade in some homemade earthbox type containers made from 18 gallon plasic totes and PVC from home depot. They've been in the containers about a month now with some growth finally happening.

The mt hood has 3 strong shoots up, the talles about 6 to 8 inches. The cascade has a couple of 1-2 inchers and the goldings just broke the surface. I've not had to water a single time yet with this setup.

Oh, I'm in central Ohio.

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Old 04-13-2010, 12:26 AM   #5
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If you make your own tub out of a rubbermaid, don't put the holes right at the bottom. Leave like the bottom 3" of the thing holelesss. You'll store some water that way so your hops don't go bone dry during hot sunny days.

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Old 04-13-2010, 12:57 AM   #6
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..some motivation to finally convert those big blue drums into rainwater collection barrels!

i was originally thinking about ordering from freshops.com since people on the forums have been recommending it, but if i went with northwesthops.com id go for the starter bundle with 5 rhizomes + twine + free shipping for $20. Are they comparable in quality and service?

If i chose 5 then i would do willamette, fuggle, cascade, centennial and (mt. hood, nugget or golding).

Guess it doesnt matter which i start with, as i can always add more rhizomes, and eventually have 1 of each... then start to cut and transfer as the years go by.

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I'm in Kentucky -- I have four second year hop plants I'm growing in 18 gallon plastic storage bins (that I've drilled a bunch of 1/2" holes in for drainage).

I'm growing them in Miracle Gro potting soil, and fertilizing with quarter-strength Miracle Gro for tomatoes every few weeks.

I've just been keeping an eye on the moisture in the soil, and watering as needed...nowhere near 5 gallons a day so far... But it's been pretty easy to keep them healthy.

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definitely going to plant ONE rhizome per Rubbermaid bin (those really big gray storage bins with the red lids...

sirsloop: Just to clarify...Are you suggesting holes on the side of the bin rather than on the bottom?

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rick500: il be using potting soil and compost (store bought + backyard).. i don't forsee any problems.. maybe a less productive bine, but i rather get them started now, let them grow in "planters" and transfer them next season when i have a more permanent place to plant them. I will also replicate the trellis used by ? from BYO in his interview with James from Basic Brewing. Just the wooden pole with an eyelet and string, allowing you to lower the bine while giving it more vertical space to grow up. Fearing some disease, mold or insect damage... so maybe i will just throw a rope over a nearby tree branch at 25' or so! then i have no worries...

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I used the pole and twine setup from the BYO article also, last year. This year, I added a four-foot crossbar to the tops of the poles, and put four eyelets on it, evenly spaced, for four bines per plant. It's worked out great so far.

Here's a pic from a little over a week ago. Some of the bines are up to 7 feet tall now.

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