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Old 04-30-2009, 01:15 PM   #1
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Default First year cascade... what is this?

I planted two cascade rhizomes this year. One is doing great. The other has something weird going on. Some of the leaves have a light green color on part of them. The part that is the light green color seems to stop growing. And also all of the new growth has the same color and the whole plant seems to be slowed compared to the other plant. Look at the picture and you can see where the leaf is smaller on the section that is light green. Does anybody know what this could be?

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Old 04-30-2009, 01:30 PM   #2
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Nitrogen deficiency.

I have seen it on my cascades too - soil test confirmed I needed more N



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Old 04-30-2009, 04:36 PM   #3
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Buy a bag of fertilizer, you'll be fine.

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Old 04-30-2009, 06:07 PM   #4
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It has been fertilized so that should be fine. Also, the other rhizome is planted in the same dirt and it is leaps and bound over the other one. I think it has some kind of disease or something. Or maybe some kind of root problem.

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Old 04-30-2009, 09:46 PM   #5
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look at the underside of the leaf very carefully, maybe you will see some very small liquid sucking bugs. --Purely a guess.

another guess: Do you have a fairly new house??

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Old 05-01-2009, 07:18 PM   #6
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Nothing underneath the leaves. And my house is about nine years old.

The best way to describe it is that any new growth stays young. It stays the light green color, and stays small.

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When my plants have come up it has been common for some of the lower leaves to be a little deformed like this. As it got bigger they look more uniform. If every leaf looks similar I don't think it's bugs. A soil deficiency could be the problem. I don't get that wound up in it because, like I said, things look better as the plant gets bigger around here.

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Old 05-01-2009, 09:14 PM   #8
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"Take your protein pills and put your helmet on"

How wet is the soil? Is it bogged?

If yes, no amount of fertilizer is going to help if the roots are shutting down due to oxygen stress. I ask because oxygen stress looks EXACTLY like nutrient deficiency because no nutrient is getting in the plant.

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Old 05-01-2009, 10:31 PM   #9
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I don't think the soil is bogged. I water it daily and it drains well. Maybe I should try letting it dry out and see what happens. Anyway, I took a couple of more pictures. the first one is the Hop in question zoomed out a little more so you can get a better idea what it looks like overall. The second one is the other cascade rhizome planted two feet from the first one. It seems perfectly happy.

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I'll be damned if that doesn't look like nitrogen deficiency..... The comment about too much water might be the issue too though.



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