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LeSinge · 08-09-2012, 02:45 AM

"...99% Citra in all likelihood..."

Maybe, maybe not
chances are you won't get that far
Last year's wet hops (8#) I went through and shook out dozens & dozens of seeds, most of which were not mature enough to be viable
I went through four separate processes to get the best of them to germinate and each trial ended the same = failure
each individual attempt was with over a dozen seeds, using techniques I researched alot on
the only thing that worked (with a very high failure rate) was coaxing life out of any bine tips I found = one plant
this year, 12# mixed wet hops just for the chances to acquire viable plant matter, the hops will be dried & packaged along with my harvest = pricey (well, here in WI we actually say 'spendy')
...but where else you gonna get that 'special favorite' hop you love so much, to have and to hold until drink do you part?

DrHop · 08-09-2012, 02:47 AM

It took me a while to convince myself that they wouldn't be the same. Im still not sure that this explanation I'm going to give but maybe its right. Hopefully a biology person can chime in. Im not sure if you remember back to biology but females have two X chromosomes and males have one X and one Y.

A female has two X chromosomes and they aren't identical lets call they X1 and X2. A male from the same plant has two that we will call X1 and Y. An egg will contain either X1 or X2 and only contains one of them. A sperm will have either X1 or Y. In the baby hop we can produce either X1X2, X1X1, X1Y or X2Y.

I'm not sure if this is right but that is how I'm thinking about it.

LeSinge · 08-09-2012, 03:00 AM

....but then again, I'm the guy who just tapped a new keg (HBC342 Pale) with only 1/2 the picnic tap assembly

brewer is officially a wet idiot
dog is officially drunk

**bottlebomber** · 08-09-2012, 03:00 AM

Those seeds are 99% likely to not be viable. When a plant goes hermaphrodite it is always later in the season, the seeds will be immature. Guaranteed. Maybe soon Citra rhizomes will be on the market, but I think for the time being they are having too much fun selling them to us for 25 bucks a pound.

**paulster2626** · 08-09-2012, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bottlebomber

Those seeds are 99% likely to not be viable. When a plant goes hermaphrodite it is always later in the season, the seeds will be immature. Guaranteed. Maybe soon Citra rhizomes will be on the market, but I think for the time being they are having too much fun selling them to us for 25 bucks a pound.

My LHBS had them for $3.99 an ounce. Yeah, thanks bud, but no thanks.

**bottlebomber** · 08-09-2012, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by paulster2626

My LHBS had them for $3.99 an ounce. Yeah, thanks bud, but no thanks.

Or $63.84 a pound

**happyinsonoma** · 08-10-2012, 10:11 AM

I'd call it OG Kush if I grew out viable seeds, lol... i got em at a dead show, from some guy, it was dark and smoke filled concert, but the best came from the illusive seeds....

**happyinsonoma** · 08-10-2012, 10:12 AM

Alright, so who's gonna jump the fence??? Anyone?

**paulster2626** · 08-10-2012, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by happyinsonoma

Alright, so who's gonna jump the fence??? Anyone?

That's exactly what they're looking for. We must go under it.

Or, just wait until the new "flavour of the week" hop variety comes out, and Citra will be forgotten and abundant. Also growers are increasing production of it anyway, they are not blind to the demand and want to supply the brewing world with all the Citra they can handle.

At least this is what I heard on a podcast somewhere.

BWN · 08-12-2012, 04:05 AM

Do proprietary hops stay protected forever? Or do they run out after a while like how a patent runs out after a certain time.