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04-13-2008, 03:10 PM
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Cranky Old Guy
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Cascade Forest
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Two days of sunshine and temperatures zooming from 27F - 82F morning to evening and a couple shoots turn into Hop Forest.
This is a third year Cascade. Note the shoot coming out of last year's bine just in front of the dead leaf.

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04-13-2008, 09:45 PM
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That is explosive growth! Will you thin heavily and/or train it? My centennial just popped up, not quite as vigorous as your pic, but I'm psyched for a full year's growth. You should get some real monsters off that Cascade good luck
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04-13-2008, 10:04 PM
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NICE! my Cascade Jumbo Rhizome has really responded to this great Willamette valley weather- I have 20 shoots from one rhizome! How many bines do you keep growing?
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04-13-2008, 11:13 PM
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Cranky Old Guy
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I run one strand with 2-3 bines, so most of those shoots will get lopped. It will be at least a week, maybe two before I do anything else.
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04-15-2008, 09:48 PM
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nice growth. << not something you hear everyday.
David, What do you think about keeping the first year hop vine trimmed pretty aggresively to incourage root developement? Not going to get any real useable quantity of product anyway.
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04-15-2008, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TimBrewz
NICE! my Cascade Jumbo Rhizome has really responded to this great Willamette valley weather- I have 20 shoots from one rhizome! How many bines do you keep growing?
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If I remember correctly, the recommendation from Freshops is two strings and not more then three bines per string. I'm a first-year grower myself so I'm really not sure.
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04-16-2008, 12:05 AM
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So David, Won't running 2 or 3 shoots on one cord have them competeing for sunlight? i got the idea to grow one bine per cord...
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04-16-2008, 01:01 PM
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I would think that first year you want as much leaves as possible, to help root growth. Next year start strimming, as you will be expecting flowers to grow, and want to focus the root's energy into the couple of bines you didnt' trim.
I can see growing two lines with 3 bines each after first year.
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04-16-2008, 02:30 PM
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Is it strange that my first year rhizomes have only sprouted one shoot per plant? Only one of my plants has 2 shoots.
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04-16-2008, 02:47 PM
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Cranky Old Guy
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You want to run several bines: first, because one might die and second, the growth really isn't dense enough to block out the sun, so you'll get more hops that way.
On the other hand, too many bines will exceed the capacity of the root system and your yield will go down. Commercial growers run as many as eight bines from each plant, but they also use drip irrigation and intense fertilization.
One sprout isn't unusual, but don't be surprised to see more in a few weeks. It's to the plant's advantage to put all available energy into one shoot at the start. When that shoot is providing energy to the root, more shoots can be budded.
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