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Old 09-27-2013, 01:39 PM   #1
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Has anyone on the forum know of anyone using the Bine 3060 Harvester for this 2013 season? If so any reviews or feedback? Thanks.

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Old 09-27-2013, 04:05 PM   #2
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Seen it in person and from what I heard it sure beats hand picking.

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Old 09-30-2013, 02:45 AM   #3
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Fred, as one of the creators/manufacturers of the Bine 3060, I would be more than happy to honestly answer any questions about the harvester here or privately. Or I can put you in touch with those who have used it.

I can tell you it isn't perfect but it is a heck of a lot better than handpicking.

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I saw one.. I was not impressed...

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Hey rudds, we are always looking for feedback. What specifically was lacking? Or what improvements do you think are necessary? (Also, what model year were you looking at? We've upgraded every year.)

Obviously its not going to out pick a Wolf nor is it suitable for more than about 3 acres but we were also shooting for something 1/6th the typical price and footprint of a Wolf.

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From what I saw, it took five to six people to make that machine work ..and it still wasn't great..its a lawsuit waiting to happen befor somebody loses a finger or a hand...
IT isn't more than two lawn de -thatchers welded to a frame with a treadmill at a incline...surely not worth the 14grand the guy spent for it......

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IT isn't more than two lawn de -thatchers welded to a frame with a treadmill at a incline...
Ha, lawn de-thatcher...I never thought of it that way. Looking at some pictures, I see the connection. I've actually seen videos of other pickers that looked like a cross between a lawn mower deck and a thatcher.

Honestly, the picker was based on a brussel sprout picker and designs of hop pickers from the 1880's that were innovative but not practical to build at the time. The picking fingers come from Dauenhauer, it has a slip clutch to stop the picking fingers and (if the guards are in place) there shouldn't be anything exposed that could catch a finger or loose clothing. If you saw something otherwise please send me a PM and/or a picture. If there's some reason a user needs to remove the guards to get it to work, I would love to know for future re-designs.

I don't want to make this sound like a commercial but a fair amount of work went into that design and a lot of the early versions did come close to clipping off fingers. Heck, one model got a hold of my shirt and tried to give me an extra tight hug.

If anyone wants to understand the unit better, or any of the mechanical harvesters out there, ask away. I'm happy to share my experience or give you contacts to buy your own picking fingers to build a unit. (The fingers are much cheaper to purchase than to buy the material and bend them yourself.)
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Old 03-11-2014, 09:42 PM   #8
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Pretty much any harvester has got to be better than picking by hand. The Bine 3060 is no exception.

Brian here at Great Lakes Hops recorded one in action that one of our customers purchased. We think the machine is decent for an acre or so. If you get too much larger than that the time and pricing don't seem to make sense to us.


I have to agree with Rudds67. On the documentation (last I checked) the machine is rated to run an acre with 2 people in 33 hours. We don't think that is very accurate. The 33 hours may be accurate, but we found that the machine physically requires at least 4 people to work properly. This has to do with the area that you feed the hops into being elevated. We saw that this alone added an additional person. There was always someone on the ground doing nothing but cutting the bine in smaller pieces (which seems to be required) and then handing them up to the person feeding. This particular grower used two people to feed the hops into the front of the machine. We also saw an additional requirement for a person who has to make sure the cones fall from the cage down to the conveyor. And this particular grower was using a person to pick the good discarded cones out of the waste bin.

Still beats picking by hand. But when you can pay just over twice the price and get a used Wolf machine that will harvest 10+ acres and will do each acre in just a couple hours; We recommend growers go that route if they are considering expanding or have more than an acre.

There are a handful of other harvesters coming to market now as well. The UVM harvester shows some promise, but will require some bugs to be worked out before it can be rolled out in larger numbers. There is also a Hop Harvester 1000 being designed in New York that is of a different design but the same scale as the Bine 3060.

At the end of the day, I think these new harvesters are great for the industry. We look forward to seeing them ramp up and get fined tuned for larger growers and faster harvests!
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Here is a link to that Hop Harvester 1000.
http://steenlandmanufacturing.com/

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Pretty much any harvester has got to be better than picking by hand.
Amen, that's why we started the project. We made it for ourselves...then a few more for friends...then for anyone who was asking.

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Brian here at Great Lakes Hops recorded one in action that one of our customers purchased. We think the machine is decent for an acre or so. If you get too much larger than that the time and pricing don't seem to make sense to us.
Bingo. We don't say more than 3 acres and at that, you would probably want to use two pickers and a single sorter. The picker really follows the K.I.S.S. principal (Keep It Simple, Stupid). The hard part was the sorter. A lot of work went into assuring you only needed a single sorter instead of multiple dribble belts. This year's version has a stainless steel belt to get rid of belt tracking adjustments.

(On a side note, the shirtless dude in the video had to have a nasty rash from all the bines scraping against him. They also need to pitch it a bit higher for the hops they were running.)

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I have to agree with Rudds67. On the documentation (last I checked) the machine is rated to run an acre with 2 people in 33 hours.
I don't recall what it used to say, but the material now says, "The Bine 3060 is designed to process up to 50 bines/hour (depending on variety and production method) with as few as 3 people. An average of 20-40 bines/hour is a reasonable rate." Some of the early results were incredible, because they were younger bines. It depends on the crew but we have found 3 can do it, 4 optimizes the process, 5 allows the highest possible picking rate with some rest for the crew and 6 means you've got someone standing around drinking beer and making everyone else work slower because the wish they were drinking a beer, too.
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