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drobbins 08-05-2008 02:49 PM

another transplanting question
 
Hi Folks

I planted 3 different types of hops in a raised bed last spring
I now realize it's going to be hard to tell who is who and I'd like to have more plants so I'm going to build 2 more raised beds and transplant some of the hops around so I have 1 type in each bed
I have no time constraints
when should I do this? fall after they die back, or next spring?
in general people say transplant trees/shrubs in the fall around here but the discussions I read here make me think folks are going to suggest spring for hops

Dave

The Soft Underbelly 08-05-2008 03:08 PM

I've read that the time to propagate hops is in the spring time, which would suggest to me that this would also be the ideal time to transplant them. I'm in the same situation, 3 varieties in a raised bed and next year they'll be one big mess if i don't spread 'em apart. combine that with the fact that I'd like to add another variety or two next spring as well....

I'd defer to those wiser than me however...

drobbins 08-05-2008 03:18 PM

as far as propagation goes, you're right that you plant rhizomes in spring
I will mention though that I've taken 10 cutting off my plants this summer and every one is doing great :mug:

Dave

98EXL 08-05-2008 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drobbins (Post 786585)
as far as propagation goes, you're right that you plant rhizomes in spring
I will mention though that I've taken 10 cutting off my plants this summer and every one is doing great :mug:

Dave

/OT How did you do that?


I'm too wondering if I can do it in the fall or if I have to wait for spring. I want to dump grains on them all winter and I wanted to transplant them this fall so they have a good layer of crap on top of them.

drobbins 08-06-2008 07:50 PM

>>/OT How did you do that?


I just cut off side runners about 10" long and scraped the outer layer off the bottom inch or so of the stem. then I dipped them in rooting hormone which you get at a garden supply place and plant em in some potting soil. I've been rooting lots of stuff in the yard with excellent results, I'm amazed how easy it is. you GOTTA keep em damp while they're taking root

Dave

david_42 08-07-2008 12:12 AM

Spring time is when the rhizomes are dormant, so they can be shipped.

Hop plants are very good at advantageous rooting. You can just bury part of a plant & it will root. It is common for sidearms to take root if they are long enough to touch the ground.

Laughing_Gnome_Invisible 08-07-2008 12:20 AM

I was intending to move mine completey to a new location. Now I have thought well, why not split them and use both locations and double my fun. So, in summary, is it ok for me to wait till fall, dig up the root balls, chop the bloody things in half and then bury them again? (Sorry for the horticultural techical jargon there)

cuinrearview 08-07-2008 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OhioBrit (Post 789044)
....is it ok for me to wait till fall, dig up the root balls, chop the bloody things in half and then bury them again?

From what I've read about propogation, along with the fact that commercial farms only take cuttings in the spring has led me to plan on doing all of my fooling around underground as soon as the frost leaves the ground in the spring. I plan on taking rhizomes from my mature plant as well as raising it up before next year. I'm sure someone will disagree, but I don't recommend propogating before winter.

drobbins 08-07-2008 01:38 AM

you need to realize that propogation can be done in different ways
as david 42 said, rhizomes are shipped in the spring because that's when they're dormant. but you can start new plants this time of year in several ways
taking sidearms and covering them with some dirt is easy but didn't serve my purpose because I also wanted to relocate the plants, so I went the cuttings route
if you start them now they have the advantage of getting a root system established so they're ready to take off next year
I'm new to all this, I'll let you folks know how my cuttings do next year, but so far they're putting out new growth and lookin good:mug:

Dave

The Soft Underbelly 08-07-2008 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drobbins (Post 789155)
if you start them now they have the advantage of getting a root system established so they're ready to take off next year
I'm new to all this, I'll let you folks know how my cuttings do next year, but so far they're putting out new growth and lookin good

I think that would be my concern... that any cuttings taken from side arms might not develop a full enough root system to make it through the winter. Still, i'm quite interested to see how that turns out, probably a bit too late in the season for me to try that now though, but if it works for you, I'll definitely do it earlier next year though. Great experiment.

I took my lowest side arms in the early summer and buried them, mounding soil up around them. This seems to have helped establish new root growth and indeed these put out more shoots after a few weeks themselves. I'm curious to know how these will look in the spring when i move them to other beds.


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