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Old 12-15-2011, 06:58 AM   #21
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From the barley's point of view, all these things will increase yield. No matter where you live, soils typically never contain enough nitrogen to support a big crop of grain. We're asking a lot of the ecosystem when we farm, and you'll almost always get more grain per square foot if you give your crop some N.

Watering is unfortunately just a requirement where I live. Without irrigation, I'd have some sad barley, and actually, before the field manager and I adjusted the irrigation posts, some of it was getting wilty.

Weeding is also to increase yield. This is just due to eliminating competition for the first two variables, nutrients and water.

Now, I don't want to necessarily mimic a big commercial farm. But just like we can learn a lot from commercial brewers, I think it's interesting to learn some of the techniques and thinking that go into pro farms.

I imagine this would all still work without weeding or fertilizing, and if you're strategic, you could probably get a small crop without irrigation. Well, you can also make beer without a thermometer, hydrometer, or BeerSmith. People did for many thousands of years, and that beer drank pretty good. But most of us use these things because they give us some control, they sometimes help us to make a better product, and it's fun to geek out on beer.

I suppose that's the main reason -- I have a raging geekrection for beer.

I am no stranger to what you speak of, like I said I garden, been doing so all my life. Go crazy on it if you like, I just thought you could save a lot of time, effort and $$ and still get a lot of grain.....I do. I mean what I don't till under grows fine without all the fuss.

I own a 10 acre property myself, I just don't farm it because I have a full time job. Grew hay for years, last year soybeans. My neighbor farms it for me, he has a large farm, grows some wheat and owns a combine.
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:08 AM   #22
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Major respect. I wish I lived in a climate that I could farm.

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Old 12-15-2011, 02:42 PM   #23
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I grew a half an acre of barley this year. Shocked it up by hand and built my own threshing machine to harvest it, but I planted it with a drill. The 7.5 in spacing is good for controlling weeds.

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Old 12-15-2011, 05:14 PM   #24
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I grew a half an acre of barley this year. Shocked it up by hand and built my own threshing machine to harvest it, but I planted it with a drill. The 7.5 in spacing is good for controlling weeds.
That is awesome!!! Grain porn...

So many questions: Do you have any plans for your thresher you could share, or do you remember what you referenced to learn how to build it?

What tool did you use to cut the stalks? Do you have a scythe?

Do you remember about how much grain your half acre gave?

Were you able to walk between your 7.5" rows? Did you apply any fertilizer?

klyph, thanks for the note!
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Old 12-15-2011, 05:46 PM   #25
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This is an old drill I cut in half for small food plots. It was headed for the scrap iron recycler, until I flagged the guy down.

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Old 12-15-2011, 06:21 PM   #26
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Here is a video of my homemade threshing machine. It runs on a 1/3 hp electric moter. The thresher is a piece of 1/2 inch cold rolled steel shaft with small chains welded to it every 3 inches. The chains are about 7 inches long and welded to the shaft at right angles from the next. When the shaft spins, the chains really fly around fast. There is a sieve under the chains that I made out of a couple metal queen excluders I had laying around. I also keep bees.

After the grain falls through the sieve it gets blown by a squirrel cage fan. In the video I used my shop vac to blow it, but this lead to too much chaff in my grain, so I have since installed a squirrel cage fan from an furnace. The grain is heavier than the chaff, which gets blown out the back, and falls through another sieve I made out of 1/4 inch hardware cloth. I just looked around the internet at different homemade thershing machines and came up with this. I also use it to crush my apples for cider with an different system on the same base.

I cut the barley with a walk behind sickle bar mower and then gathered it up and shocked it to dry a few days before threshing.

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Old 12-15-2011, 06:22 PM   #27
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Good to see your Tractor is the right color.

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Old 12-15-2011, 06:28 PM   #28
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Kubota. As long as they work, any color is good.

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Old 12-15-2011, 06:48 PM   #29
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I did fertilze with some 6-28-28. If you use too much nitorgen it will lead to other grasses really taking off and possiblity of lodging. I planted a little early - April 5th. We had a late frost and it really hurt my yeild. With a good population and stand you can expect around 70 - 80 bushels an acre. Mine was considerably less because I didn't use herbicides, the late frost, and when harvesting it the way I did you leave some in the field.

I planted winter wheat in the same plot this fall and I'm going to frost seed some red clover this Febuary so after harvest of the wheat the clover will take off. In the fall I'll till it under and you end up with about 80lbs of nitrogen per acre increase from the green manure, plus the bees love the stuff. I'll plant it back to barley the next spring, but will wait until a little later in April.

You can't walk between the rows really, but there really isn't a need too. If you can't drill the seed, you might be better off broadcasting it than planting in rows to shade out weeds and increase your population.

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Old 12-16-2011, 04:17 AM   #30
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Nice! Do you brew with the barley you grow? I'm drooling over your seed drill and thresher.

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