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Old 12-19-2009, 11:57 PM   #11
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this could be the start of something special, especially since it's high in alcohol... let it go for a while and see what results.
Definitely! Its an english old ale, and before it caught this bug, it smelled and tasted like strait up bourbon apricot!

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if the abv is that high, are you sure it is an infection?

Did you taste it?
thats no kraussen dude. it smells yeasty funky earthy and bready. its infected. thats called a pellicle.

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if the abv is that high, are you sure it is an infection?

Did you taste it?
i didnt taste it yet. thats no kraussen dude...it smells bready, yeasty, funky and earthy. i'll try it out, but honestly, its infected.

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I think it hilarious that you had a fake mustash on hand.....
Is that Idaphor in your airlock?
brandy. and yes, i have an 8 pack of mustaches.

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I highly doubt your airlock caused this.
gotta blame something!

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Did you give it a taste?
not yet, i've been too busy haha.

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wth? is that a 30 gallon stainless pot? looks like the airlock went dry or is that me?

that is very sad. any loss of beer over .5 gallons is a sad, sad, day. ill mourne your loss with a minute silence. comencing now...
Thank you for your condolences.
Its a 7gal stainless conical. Airlock is full of brandy.
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Old 12-20-2009, 06:46 AM   #12
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brandy. and yes, i have an 8 pack of mustaches.
Doesn't everyone?
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Old 12-20-2009, 11:47 AM   #13
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I highly doubt your airlock caused this.
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this could be the start of something special, especially since it's high in alcohol... let it go for a while and see what results.
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It is highly unlikely that your airlock infected your beer. You probably slipped somewhere along the way with your sanitation practices. It happens.

Don't give up on it though, ride it out and see how the beer turns out.
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Old 12-20-2009, 05:28 PM   #14
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thats no kraussen dude. it smells yeasty funky earthy and bready. its infected. thats called a pellicle.
Well... if the alcohol is that high, I doubt it is a bacterial infection. I haven't heard of bacteria that can survive in even 2-3% let alone 10%.

Since it smells yeasty, maybe it is a foreign strain of yeast? It could be a mold... I don't have a microscope yet, but if you have access to one, you could take a peek and see if it is shaped like a yeast, mold, or bacteria.
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Old 12-20-2009, 09:49 PM   #15
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Well... if the alcohol is that high, I doubt it is a bacterial infection. I haven't heard of bacteria that can survive in even 2-3% let alone 10%.

wait a minute, you mean every infection issue in beer is of some yeast origin? i thought only harmfull stuff like E. coli etc that can kill you can't survive in beer.
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Well... if the alcohol is that high, I doubt it is a bacterial infection. I haven't heard of bacteria that can survive in even 2-3% let alone 10%.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pediococcus
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pretty crazy looking stuff there.

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Old 12-21-2009, 11:34 PM   #18
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Guess I should stop filling my airlock with yogurt. I thought the thick consistency would help
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I am not an expert here, so if you even have a little bit of knowledge you could help me out in understanding this.

I read the wikipedia articles, but they say nothing about alcohol tolerance. I had thought that if you wanted flavor profile from these guys you needed to get it before the alcohol rose to any degree.

After the alcohol was in there the flavors had to come from Brett' or other yeast strains.

I am mislead in my understanding?
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That does look gnarly. My condolences if the batch turns out unsalvageable.

I've never personally used a conical, but I have heard and read a lot that the threads on the valves at the bottom are a classic place for nasties to build up and grow. They are often not dealt with through the use of liquid sanitizers and can only be gotten two ways.

Either regular dissasemble so you can access, clean and sanitise the connections.
Or sanitize with boiling water. Even though the water may not reach all of the areas, the heat radiates through the metal and will raise the temp high enough to sanitize. Even if using heat, I understand the connections should still be taken apart from time to time to clean.

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