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Old 01-09-2010, 08:14 PM   #61
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I'm curious as to whether you guys use insulation on your setups:

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Currently I use 2 ea. 2500 watt elements in my brewery. 5000 watts to boil then maintain with 2500. They are more than enough for a 5 gallon batch and will do the job for a 10 gallon batch. I do find myself wishing for another 1000 watts to get 10 gallons up to boil.
You should have plenty of power there. I'm not familiar with your setup, but do you have insulation around your boil kettle? Adding even an inch around it DRAMATICALLY decreases the heat loss.

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I think we are going ape chit with elements. The 4500W Bk has an insane boil rate, close to 2 gph. Though I don't think I want anything less than that for 10gal batches. 5500W is like shootin for the moon

I am using a 1250W element in my RIMS and it is barely enough power, It takes a long time to get temps up to mash and mash out, and I sure as heck am not doing any step mashing with it. I know you use a 1500W unit and that may be the magic number.

We're still kind of pioneering it. When I started I was preached to about the horrors of scorching my wort and extra caramelization making a darker beer. I think we debunked most of that. Still a lot of fine details to work out
Ditto the insulation comment. I'll be doing a lot of experimentation with heating element powers (trying not to use 240V power).

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I use 5500W elements in my HLT and BK (10 gal system). I wouldn't go with less, given the choice. Gets to temp quickly. Boils are quick, and with the PID in manual mode, I only run about 70% average power to the element to maintain a good rolling boil.
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Currently I use 2 ea. 2500 watt elements in my brewery. 5000 watts to boil then maintain with 2500. They are more than enough for a 5 gallon batch and will do the job for a 10 gallon batch. I do find myself wishing for another 1000 watts to get 10 gallons up to boil.


You should have plenty of power there. I'm not familiar with your setup, but do you have insulation around your boil kettle? Adding even an inch around it DRAMATICALLY decreases the heat loss.
No, I do not have either keggle insulated. I am using two 220V hockey stick submersion heaters. Once I have heated my sparge water I transfer them to the boil. I really do have plenty of power. I'm just impatient!
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OEH, my MLT wouldn't get to temps period until I put 2 wraps of reflectix on it.

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OEH, my MLT wouldn't get to temps period until I put 2 wraps of reflectix on it.
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I'm curious as to whether you guys use insulation on your setups:
Mine's going right now. No insulation on my BK. I have my element at 80%, which is a little higher than normal. It's a little colder than normal in Florida right now! 40 degF! You can just see the steam blowing off in the pic below.

In the summer, I run my 5500W element at 70%.

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Your in luck man it's 110v so you won't even have to rewire so come and get it.

Thanks Pat
Again, really nice set-up. Do you have a plan for it, or could you tell me more about the electrical stuff?
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Reinheitsgebot, I would be interested in learning more about the pricing and shipping on that German setup as well. 5 gallon.
They are just getting back to work this coming week. Folks in Germany are off between Christmas and the 6th. I will call them this week.
I know you'd save the 19% sales tax that is included in the price. However, the shipping (and whatever taxes Uncle Sam might want) will most likely make up for it again.

Group order? Or do you think TSA will notice/say anything if I brings some back in my carry-on?
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They are just getting back to work this coming week. Folks in Germany are off between Christmas and the 6th. I will call them this week.
I know you'd save the 19% sales tax that is included in the price. However, the shipping (and whatever taxes Uncle Sam might want) will most likely make up for it again.

Group order? Or do you think TSA will notice/say anything if I brings some back in my carry-on?
Hahaha. I'm ready!
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Depending on the final cost, and if folks wouldn't mind waiting a few months to execute it, I'd be in for the 10+ gal version. I appreciate you looking into it for us, Reinheitsgebot!

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Those Speidels have become very popular in Norway the last couple of years.
I don't own one myself but It is tempting..

There's a lenghty discussion on one of the Norwegian homebrewing boards:
http://www.bryggeri.net/viewtopic.ph...r=asc&start=30
Obviously in Norwegian but with lots of pictures.

They're getting very good efficiency (high 80's) when they add about one (for the 20l) or two (for the 50l) gallons of extra sparge water.

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