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Old 01-07-2010, 10:36 AM   #51
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DUH, But I could be prejudice.

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Old 01-07-2010, 03:00 PM   #52
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DUH, But I could be prejudice.
You are allowed to say that, being it's yours but I may just have to agree with you.
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Old 01-07-2010, 06:19 PM   #53
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DUH, But I could be prejudice.
With all due respect, that thing is a beauty!!! Fully controlled, yet still gas fired. I just can't justify running 240V diagonally thru my house. Surely, this thing is more $$$ then the Speidel. If not, let me know where you live and I will pick it up. Or at least you could donate the plans,

Still, Lehr, you are a Basterd for having such a nice machine!!!

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Old 01-07-2010, 11:25 PM   #54
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I looked at the specs on this system and they have 3.5 KW elements in the HLT and BK. We have guys here wanting to put two 4.5 KW elements in each vessel for 10 gallon batches. Is this brewery under powered or are some of the guys here who are building electric breweries going ape-chit with the elements?
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Old 01-08-2010, 03:00 AM   #55
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Currently I use 2 ea. 2500 watt elements in my brewery. 5000 watts to boil then maintain with 2500. They are more than enough for a 5 gallon batch and will do the job for a 10 gallon batch. I do find myself wishing for another 1000 watts to get 10 gallons up to boil.

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I looked at the specs on this system and they have 3.5 KW elements in the HLT and BK. We have guys here wanting to put two 4.5 KW elements in each vessel for 10 gallon batches. Is this brewery under powered or are some of the guys here who are building electric breweries going ape-chit with the elements?
I think we are going ape chit with elements. The 4500W Bk has an insane boil rate, close to 2 gph. Though I don't think I want anything less than that for 10gal batches. 5500W is like shootin for the moon

I am using a 1250W element in my RIMS and it is barely enough power, It takes a long time to get temps up to mash and mash out, and I sure as heck am not doing any step mashing with it. I know you use a 1500W unit and that may be the magic number.

We're still kind of pioneering it. When I started I was preached to about the horrors of scorching my wort and extra caramelization making a darker beer. I think we debunked most of that. Still a lot of fine details to work out
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Old 01-08-2010, 10:46 AM   #57
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With all due respect, that thing is a beauty!!! Fully controlled, yet still gas fired. I just can't justify running 240V diagonally thru my house. Surely, this thing is more $$$ then the Speidel. If not, let me know where you live and I will pick it up. Or at least you could donate the plans,

Still, Lehr, you are a Basterd for having such a nice machine!!!

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Your in luck man it's 110v so you won't even have to rewire so come and get it.

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I looked at the specs on this system and they have 3.5 KW elements in the HLT and BK. We have guys here wanting to put two 4.5 KW elements in each vessel for 10 gallon batches. Is this brewery under powered or are some of the guys here who are building electric breweries going ape-chit with the elements?
My buddy has that system with four glycol fermenters and it does have some pretty small elements in it.

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I use 5500W elements in my HLT and BK (10 gal system). I wouldn't go with less, given the choice. Gets to temp quickly. Boils are quick, and with the PID in manual mode, I only run about 70% average power to the element to maintain a good rolling boil.

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Reinheitsgebot, I would be interested in learning more about the pricing and shipping on that German setup as well. 5 gallon.

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