I think it comes down to semantics. You can make a stout hoppy. Doesn't make it a Stout PA. bobbrews was right, and Amber ale and Red ale are typically interchangeable. He even went so far as to include rye in his guess. Red Rye = Amber Rye.
VT, the contrast is all off in your post so this is going to make it difficult, but I will guess some sort of Blueberry fruit ale or Porter.