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Old 05-27-2009, 09:04 PM   #11
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Tell that to the brew computers at Anheuser Busch that make beer consistent beer from year to year!
So then, there is no reason for them to hire the panel of tasters who verify that each batch is properly blended for consistency?

Even a billion dollar computer can't replace the palate but, it will get you in the field.
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Old 05-28-2009, 02:38 AM   #12
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I will have to say that in theory they all work the same but Beer Tools has way different IBU and gravity out puts then beer smith. I have done the exact same recipe that Was done on Beer smith and my IBUs are way different.

I have the alapha acids set the exact same on both programs and they do differ.

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Old 05-28-2009, 05:15 AM   #13
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I will have to say that in theory they all work the same but Beer Tools has way different IBU and gravity out puts then beer smith. I have done the exact same recipe that Was done on Beer smith and my IBUs are way different.

I have the alapha acids set the exact same on both programs and they do differ.
With respect to IBU's, Basic Brewing did a cast where they calculate using each method, and compared to actual test results. They were all off.

Anything you use will at best be an estimate. From there you use your palate to fine tune.
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Old 05-28-2009, 11:44 AM   #14
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I prefer ProMash, not for accuracy, but ease of use.

I did try Beer Tools Pro, and couldnt get it to properly calculate my sparge volume for the life of me, so I quit.

I tried Beersmith, and it didnt seem to link all of the calculators together, when I made a change to one parameter in the recipe, it didnt seem to update all of the calculators automatically for me.

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They all do the job, depends on if you are left or right brained.

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Old 05-28-2009, 01:23 PM   #15
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I will have to say that in theory they all work the same but Beer Tools has way different IBU and gravity out puts then beer smith. I have done the exact same recipe that Was done on Beer smith and my IBUs are way different.

I have the alapha acids set the exact same on both programs and they do differ.
I think it was just a matter of which utilization algorithm is the default setting. I know that you can choose from like 5 different ones in BTP but I always use Rager since Jamil recommended it and I'm too lazy to figure out why.
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Old 05-28-2009, 01:36 PM   #16
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I tried Beersmith, and it didnt seem to link all of the calculators together, when I made a change to one parameter in the recipe, it didnt seem to update all of the calculators automatically for me.
Yeah. I miss that about ProMash. That, and the fact that BeerSmith forces you to close the current window to open another section, or tool. I'd also be nice if you could specifiy a default file save location rather than everything going into a single *.bsm file. I know you can do a a save as but, sine the application isn't very open in that respect.......

My copy of ProMash became all buggy at a time when support was at it's lowest. I know JD is back on the support boards but, wish he was in a better place to pump out an update worthy of another switch.

Has anybody EVER used the timer feature in ProMash?

Until then, the other features of BeerSmith win my commitment.
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Never used the timer feature... but I got ProMash for the linking of all the applications and the inventory feature. Even if I have to CREATE an ingredient, it is pretty easy and managing inventory (20 hops and 20 malts) couldnt be easier.

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Never used the timer feature... but I got ProMash for the linking of all the applications and the inventory feature. Even if I have to CREATE an ingredient, it is pretty easy and managing inventory (20 hops and 20 malts) couldnt be easier.
Yeah. I never understood the issue with the DB being "out of date". Most all malsters have at least a sufficient "typical analysis" to give everything the software needs to create a malt profile.

My copy had issues with entry fields. Never could get a solution. Tried uninstalling, blah, blah, and kept having the same isue. So, I switched.

There was lots of promise in the concept of the new release. I understand why it is not here but, it's too bad. The core of the ProMash system is, IMO, the most solid and the interface isn't that hard to look at.
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