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Old 09-04-2013, 08:08 PM   #11
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Doesn't Beersmith have a cloud option that allows you to keep recipes online, and to share them?
Kind of, except you're limited to 10 recipes unless you pay a monthly fee, and it doesn't work well at all. For instance, it keeps telling me my recipe "failed to transfer to cloud" but then there are three copies of the recipe on the cloud site.

I liked Hopville a lot. Brewtoad is... OK. I daren't change batch sizes, etc when I'm on my phone's browser (you know... like if I'm brewing or at the LHBS) or it will adjust some of the malts but not all of them, or sometimes just the hops, or sometimes it won't adjust any of them but when I set the batch size back it cuts all my ingredients in half besides water.

The main reason I don't use Beersmith is that it demands information I don't have about my water profile, and information I CAN'T have for my mash profile because I BIAB. I've heard you can create a profile to fix this but it looks complicated.
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Old 09-04-2013, 08:10 PM   #12
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That doesn't happen with me, I just click "add" and it's added.

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Old 09-04-2013, 08:13 PM   #13
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BeerSmith is possibly the most complete, flexible and individualize-able application out here. BeerSmith's calculations seem to be spot on. Although it has some issues as to its UI and an apparent counter-intuitiveness, IMO, after reading the manual a bit closer and playing around, it is probably all you need and want. And I'm still learning.

Alas it's not free or an online app, but there is an android version available. I transfer the .bsmx files and just take my laptop into the "brew room."

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Old 09-04-2013, 08:46 PM   #14
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That doesn't happen with me, I just click "add" and it's added.
While that's helpful, I still don't find the recipe limit or the paid tier to be acceptable - needing to plan ahead and put the recipe I need into cloud storage beforehand is basically the opposite of what "cloud" should mean for the end-user. Additionally, syncing recipes directly with my mac or linux PC should be a feature.
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While that's helpful, I still don't find the recipe limit or the paid tier to be acceptable - needing to plan ahead and put the recipe I need into cloud storage beforehand is basically the opposite of what "cloud" should mean for the end-user. Additionally, syncing recipes directly with my mac or linux PC should be a feature.
Not sure what you mean. I was just saying that Brewtoad works fine for me
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Ah, I thought you meant that adding cloud recipes in Beersmith worked for you. My bad.

Brewtoad works for me too unless I edit recipes in Chrome for Android. Maybe I should try Firefox. Or maybe I should throw this awful android away and dust off my iPhone 4S.

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I really like brewtoad, the things that bother me about it are:

1. if you don't uncheck the "auto-scale ingredients" button, it f#%@s s%$# up.

2. Some of my ingredients from old hopville recipes are different.

3. Lots of ingredients from hopville are gone

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Brewtoad is definitely a step up in interface design, but a big step back in usability and functionality. I'm migrating to beersmith anyway, though, so I guess it won't make much difference to me. I've been making it work for a few months now, but will be glad to see the end of it.

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I use Brewer's Friend (http://www.brewersfriend.com/) but it has a really annoying limit in the number of recipes before it wants you to pay (I think it is 5... which is really low). It seems to work and stays pretty much out of your way. It decent. Wish they would go ad supported and just allow folks to use it for free. I would be totally fine with that.

I dunno, other folks may hate Brewer's Friend. Just not sure. It popped up in a pinch and I have been using it since.

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