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**brettwasbtd** · 03-21-2011, 03:34 PM

Maybe a stupid question, but if I added some ingredients (yeast and grain) In my 1.2.2 version, should I copy the 1.2.2. database, or go through the xml and add it to the 1.2.3. file? I guess I am asking if there have been updates to the ingredients section? Let me know if I am not making sense

**brettwasbtd** · 03-21-2011, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by brettwasbtd

Maybe a stupid question, but if I added some ingredients (yeast and grain) In my 1.2.2 version, should I copy the 1.2.2. database, or go through the xml and add it to the 1.2.3. file? I guess I am asking if there have been updates to the ingredients section? Let me know if I am not making sense

Nevermind, i guess that is all tracked in recipes.xml? Cause that is the only thing I copied over and it looks like everything is there.

**rocketman768** · 03-21-2011, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by brettwasbtd

Nevermind, i guess that is all tracked in recipes.xml? Cause that is the only thing I copied over and it looks like everything is there.

Yeah, as long as you keep your recipes.xml file, then your ingredients that you put into the recipes won't go missing.

Pennsyltucky · 03-21-2011, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jvcjbl

On mac as soon as I try to resize the screen it jumps to the left and then locks itself from being resized again

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I have the same problem.

**Golddiggie** · 03-21-2011, 07:11 PM

Any chance you could port it over for use on BlackBerries? Compatibility with the OS version 5.x would be sweet...

**rocketman768** · 03-21-2011, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Golddiggie

Any chance you could port it over for use on BlackBerries? Compatibility with the OS version 5.x would be sweet...

Where is Randar?

sakeyfour · 03-21-2011, 09:47 PM

Down loaded the new version for Mac 10.6 and I have few comments/observations:

1. I like the tabs for extras and brewday

2. In the Mac version i can not resize the main window. It will only move between 5 to 6 inches wide.

3. Would like to see a way to keep track of actual numbers (OG, SG, FG) for each time I brew a recipe without having to add another version of the recipe to the list.

Love the software. Keep up the good work.

p.s. if you get really ambitious you could make a way to sync to ipod or android. You know build recipe on the computer and use the ipod/phone on brewday.

**rocketman768** · 03-21-2011, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sakeyfour

2. In the Mac version i can not resize the main window. It will only move between 5 to 6 inches wide.

3. Would like to see a way to keep track of actual numbers (OG, SG, FG) for each time I brew a recipe without having to add another version of the recipe to the list.

Love the software. Keep up the good work.

p.s. if you get really ambitious you could make a way to sync to ipod or android. You know build recipe on the computer and use the ipod/phone on brewday.

For #2, see above posts.

#3 is the focus of the next version. Brew logs and keeping track of your performance on your batches.

For the last one, yep. Definitely going to integrate brewtarget with Dropbox or something similar so that you can open it from whichever device and always see the same recipes.

andrewdixon1000 · 03-22-2011, 12:14 AM

Firstly, thanks for the great software Rocketman.

My question is regarding beer/grain colour. For a while now I've been trying to get my head around EBC/SRM/Lovibond. It seems that a lot of the time people assume SRM and Lovibond are the same thing. But from what I've been reading they are two different things, although they do agree quite closely at the low end, ie for pale colours. Looking at the Brewtarget fermentables database I see that you list the SRM colour for Crystal malts as the same as their lovibond rating, eg Crystal 120L = 120 SRM. Could you give me a quick run down on how Brewtarget handles these colours.

The main reason I ask is because here in New Zealand most of our malts come from Europe and the spec sheets tend to specify colour in EBC. But I tend to brew recipes from US sources (Brewing Classic Styles in particular) where colour is specified in Lovibond. I would love to get a definitive answer on how I should go about converting these EBC values for use in Brewtarget.

(BTW I tried changing the settings in Brewtarget to use EBC for colour but everything is still listed as SRM)

Thanks a lot
Andy

**rocketman768** · 03-22-2011, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by andrewdixon1000

Could you give me a quick run down on how Brewtarget handles these colours.

I'll break down all the calculations:
MCU (malt color units) = X (lb/gal) * Y (MCU/(lb/gal))
X is the concentration of the grain in the batch
Y is the Lovibond color.
==Morey==
SRM = 1.4922 * MCU^0.6859
==Daniel==
SRM = 0.2 * MCU + 8.4
==Mosher==
SRM = 0.3 * MCU + 4.7

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The main reason I ask is because here in New Zealand most of our malts come from Europe and the spec sheets tend to specify colour in EBC. But I tend to brew recipes from US sources (Brewing Classic Styles in particular) where colour is specified in Lovibond. I would love to get a definitive answer on how I should go about converting these EBC values for use in Brewtarget.

(BTW I tried changing the settings in Brewtarget to use EBC for colour but everything is still listed as SRM)

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but SRM and EBC refer to the color of the finished beer only (which is why they are defined by the absorbance at 430 nm of the beer itself). As far as I know, they do not measure the color potential of the grain. This is why when you select the EBC option, what changes in brewtarget is the number on the color display for the recipe.

To be honest, I'm not sure what European malts are using to show color potential. Is it something like MCUs / (kg/L) or something? Someone who has more experience should comment here.