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Old 10-10-2008, 01:24 AM   #1
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Default Beersmith strike temp calculation

Do any of you guys have any trouble with the calculation of strike water temps in Beersmith? They are drastically different from different online calculators, and I question their accuracy. I normally add my strike water overly hot and stir till it reachs my desired strike temp, thus conditioning the tun. Beersmith doesn't seem to have a way to calculate the temp in this fashion, as I'm not pre-heating the tun to any specific temperature.

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I find beersmith is low on strike temp calculations. There are inputs for mash tun specific heat and weight. Tweaking those may get it closer to reality.



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I use beersmith and hit my target to the degree every time. Here's how...

1) Deactivate the checkbox that says "Adjust Temp for equipment"

2) Make a note of the first description [in the mash profile] that says something like "Add x.xx quarts of water at yyy.y F"

3) Heat the necessary amount of water to well above yyy.y (like 20 degrees or so) and put it in your mashtun.

4) Stir the water and let it sit until it comes down to yyy.y temperature.

5) Dough-In

The starting temperature of your grain before dough-in can also affect the resulting temp. If it's outside of 60-70 F use the strike/infusion calculator to do the calculations and update the step with the resulting values.

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I use beersmith and hit my target to the degree every time. Here's how...

1) Deactivate the checkbox that says "Adjust Temp for equipment"

2) Make a note of the first description [in the mash profile] that says something like "Add x.xx quarts of water at yyy.y F"

3) Heat the necessary amount of water to well above yyy.y (like 20 degrees or so) and put it in your mashtun.

4) Stir the water and let it sit until it comes down to yyy.y temperature.

5) Dough-In

The starting temperature of your grain before dough-in can also affect the resulting temp. If it's outside of 60-70 F use the strike/infusion calculator to do the calculations and update the step with the resulting values.
If you edit your mash profiles you can set your grain temperature.
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If you edit your mash profiles you can set your grain temperature.
Why yes you can... forgot about that because I never have to actually adjust the grain temp since I keep my grain at 65-72 in the basement.
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Beersmith has been spot on for me. You have to make sure you have entered your equipment info and all the mash info in correctly.

I don't pre-heat my tun and it hits the temp. right on. However, because the tun was not pre-heated, I do see a drop in temp. over the 1st 15-20 min. and have to compensate with hot water some.

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I use the method of heating the strike water to unadjusted target temp + 15, letting it sit in the tun for a few minutes, then let it cool down and dough in.

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I use beersmith and hit my target to the degree every time. Here's how...

1) Deactivate the checkbox that says "Adjust Temp for equipment"

2) Make a note of the first description [in the mash profile] that says something like "Add x.xx quarts of water at yyy.y F"

3) Heat the necessary amount of water to well above yyy.y (like 20 degrees or so) and put it in your mashtun.

4) Stir the water and let it sit until it comes down to yyy.y temperature.

5) Dough-In

The starting temperature of your grain before dough-in can also affect the resulting temp. If it's outside of 60-70 F use the strike/infusion calculator to do the calculations and update the step with the resulting values.
That sounds right, but the strike temp is still 3 degrees lower on average than other calculators. That's significant. Hmm...
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I preheat my tun with 180* water until my strike water is up to temp (about 20 minutes). Then in BS I set my tun temp to 100* and the grain to what ever it really is.
This gives me the right temp every time.

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I heat my strike water to around 175 and put it in the MLT. When it cools down to about 2 degrees warmer than Beersmith calls for then I put in the grain. This usually hits my temp just about right.



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