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Old 11-27-2012, 05:21 PM   #11
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Good to know about volumes being equal between batch and fly, I've never played with the fly sparge option in BS.

I'm with you... I don't know such a small sparge would accomplish unless it were boiling water which would raise the grain bed temp, but probably not near enough to get to ~168*F.

After mash time is up, I stir it up really well, let settle a couple minutes, vorlauf, and drain all 1st runnings. Add first batch sparge water, stir really well (really well) for a couple minutes and let settle 5-10 minutes, vorlauf, drain all runnings. And I do the same process on the 2nd batch sparge. Last batch I tasted the 2nd batch sparge runnings and there wasn't much going on there in terms of sugar or flavor, thus the minor addition to efficiency.

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Old 11-27-2012, 09:57 PM   #12
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There is a way to change the default but all I do is add the two recommended amounts together and combine them as one sparge so IOW, if it says first step is 3 gallons and second step is 2.5 gallons I just combine them to a total of 5.5 gallons assuming it all fits in the tun with the associated grain bill. When sparging there is no additional absorption to factor in.
That's what I usually do. I think I started doing the 2 steps on a large 10 gallon batch that wouldn't fit all of the sparge water in one running. After that I figured that unless it was some crazy number like .34 gallons, that I would just run twice and see what happens.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:59 PM   #13
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I usually let my 2nd and 3rd steps settle for around 5 minutes or so. My manifold seems to do really well with preventing stuck sparges and filtering, so I try not to wait too long for each step.

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Old 12-03-2012, 04:07 PM   #14
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1) I've always done a single batch sparge prior to using Beersmith. Can anyone help me understand why my only choice is to batch sparge with 2 steps vs. with 1 step? Do I have my tun volume incorrect, or is it something else?
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I'm just curious what would a 3/4 gallon batch sparge even acheive? I don't even feel like it would even reach half of the grain bed? Is it like a "pre-rinse" of sorts? When you do 2 batch sparge steps, do you let each rest for 10 minutes or so or do you just drain/vorlauf after a couple of minutes, and then do it again with the 2nd volume of sparge water?
The number of sparge steps is tied to the volume of your tun, the setting that tells the software what % of the tun to fill, and the option to drain the tun first. The volume of your tun is defined in teh equipment profile, the other options are found in the mash profile under "Batch Sparge Options".

If you set the % option to 100, and select the option to drain the tun, what should happen is BS will calculate the remaining volume of water needed after the first runnings are drained, and if that volume will fit in your tun tell you to put it all in at once. If it will not fit, it will split it into 2 additions.

If your % is not at 100, and the drain option is not checked, the system assumes that you are adding sparge water to a tun that is partially full. This leads to additions that are less than a gallon or two as that is all that would fit before the tun hit the % that was defined.

Once I set it to 100% & drain, it went to a single addition as I had expected.

The 3/4 gallon sparge probably wouldn't do anything in a tun that had already been drained, but if the option isn't checked, it may be all the software though you could fit before it was as full as you told it to go.

You will have to edit those options on each sparge profile that you use.
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:50 PM   #15
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The number of sparge steps is tied to the volume of your tun, the setting that tells the software what % of the tun to fill, and the option to drain the tun first. The volume of your tun is defined in teh equipment profile, the other options are found in the mash profile under "Batch Sparge Options".
Wow, I guess I wasn't aware I could edit Mash profiles (sounds so obvious now). Clicking the "Drain Mash tun before sparging" option solved the problem. Thanks!
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:04 PM   #16
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The numbers in Beersmith are retarded. It sometimes tells me to sparge with negative amounts of water. Once I saw this I realized I was trying to focus too much on what it was doing.

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