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Old 02-08-2011, 04:22 PM   #71
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Request a little patience for a newby: what is the volume of CO2? Is this the volume of my CO2 tank? If so, aren't compressed gasses typically measured in weight, not volume? Bottom line, it looks like a great tool, I'm just not sure how to use it because I can't figure out what my input should be for CO2 volume. Sorry for the novice questions...
Volume of CO2 is the amount of co2 dissolved in solution (beer). AKA, an English Mild will have less volumes than an American light Lager. AKA less carbonation.
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Old 02-08-2011, 09:17 PM   #72
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Volume of CO2 is the amount of co2 dissolved in solution (beer). AKA, an English Mild will have less volumes than an American light Lager. AKA less carbonation.
Now that makes a whole more sense. Thanks for the help.
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Old 02-09-2011, 01:32 PM   #73
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Now, for any of you that want the CORRECT length of hose based upon the principles of physics, mechanical engineering, and fluid mechanics...

l = 1800*d/Q²*(p-0.44h),

where:
l = hose length (ft)
d = hose ID (in)
Q = flow rate (gpm)
p = gage pressure of barrel (psi)
h = height difference between middle of keg and faucet (ft)

So if you've got a keg that you'd like at 12psi, the faucet is 2ft above the middle of the keg, you're using 3/16" tubing, and you'd like a flow rate of 0.7gpm:

l = 1800*0.1875/0.7²*(12-0.44*2) = 9.5ft.

(If the faucet is above the keg, h is positive; if the keg is above the faucet, h is negative.)
Perhaps I am having a complete brainfart, but I am not seeing the same results with this equation to the excel sheet. Plus, no matter how I order the equation, I do not get 9.5 ft. Using the equations available on other sites and entering the numbers provided above, it works out to be 3.7 ft to 4 ft (depending on the equation), which does match the excel sheet. What am I not seeing here? Can someone order the equation so that I can see what is in the numerator and denominator? Finally, there is a box after the 'd', is this a power (2, or 3 perhaps)?

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Old 02-09-2011, 02:08 PM   #74
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I don't have the excel sheet in front of me and haven't looked at it in quite some time. However, my guess is the difference in flow rate. Most commercial setups plan for a flow rate of 1 gallon per minute which is a bit strong for most homebrew setups. Don't know if the excel sheet is set up with 1 gallon as the default or not, but more than likely that is the culprit.

I just ran a scenario based upon your number. When I use a flow rate of .7 I get 9.7 feet of line recommended. When I use a flow rate of 1 I get 4.75 feet of line recommended. That's assuming a diameter of .1875" line.

If you'd like you can shoot me your email via pm. I have a kegging calculator/how to built into my Brew Chart. It's not in my published version as I'm still upgrading, but I'd be willing to send it to you ahead of time so you can see what I'm talking about. My kegging calculator allows the user to control the flow rate and diameter of line so that they can dial into their system better.

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Old 02-21-2011, 07:07 PM   #75
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Finally, there is a box after the 'd', is this a power (2, or 3 perhaps)?

Thanks.
Shame that it has taken this long for someone to reply to your question about the "square" Angus. Since the formula is dealing with flows through a circular tube I would hazard a guess that the "square" is actually meant to be the symbol for squared (i.e. ^2 as you would enter it in excel). I think the formating of the forum probably didn't like using superscript and just blanked it out.
Hope it works out for you.
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Old 02-21-2011, 07:13 PM   #76
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uh, CP responded to him within an hour

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Old 02-21-2011, 07:45 PM   #77
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uh, CP responded to him within an hour
Sorry, should of been more specific about the lack of reply for what the "square" in the formula was... hang on, my reply was specific about that...


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Shame that it has taken this long for someone to reply to your question about the "square" Angus.
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Old 04-05-2011, 12:54 PM   #79
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As another poster said, wow, gonna need a lot of line for my Heff! Regarding different lengths of lines for different styles: Changing line at the tower every time I change styles will be a PITA, so I'm planning on changing the length of the line by splicing on or removing a section of line to meet the line length requirement. I'm going to use some sort of nipple to make the connection. I assume I add the length of the nipple to the shank length? Being that it is a constriction at this point and offers resistance it should be taken into account, no?

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Ok for every one on here doing this calculator, it isnt much but if you are doing a home brew/ kegerator a foot of restriction is alot. That equals 3 pounds of restriction in the system. So every 4" of 3/16" restrication line is equal to 1 pound of restriction in the line.
Also I do understand why you want to measure from the middle of the keg?? Where is the beer being sucked from?? Not the middle. It is being sucked from the bottom. Micro Matic is the only maker of these stems and valves, and you want to measure from the bottom of the keg to the faucet.

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