I made a trash can full of this last year. It was so good, we just ran out, we're going to make 2 trash cans full this year. We just throw a party and a bunch of cats throw down on it, and everyone walks away with 5-10 Gal before the holidays. We skipped the backsweetening, and carbed like normal- still delicious. so much flavor going on, it's real pleasurable as a dry cider.