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Old 05-19-2010, 11:51 PM   #791
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just out of curiosity using the base recipe without reading through 79 pages what wuld the abv be for a 5 gal batch of this stuff?im dont know if i want it has strong has ive read it may be.

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Old 05-20-2010, 01:14 AM   #792
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I would wait another week, if it gets ANY more carbonated, it just needs more time. If not, there are always those carb pills (I would use half in each bottle and re-cap then store outside in case they go off like grenades).
Wow, what a difference a couple weeks make! I popped a 4 week old bottle last weekend and it was well on it's way to being carbonated. It had a decent amount of head to it, and the flavors have started to balance and compliment each other nicely.

This one will def be a house staple from now on. Next time I'm giving it a boost with some brown sugar... How high can I push the abv before it starts to negatively affect the flavor?

Mine came in at 6.9% and you can barely taste the alcohol.
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Old 05-20-2010, 01:41 AM   #793
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Wow, what a difference a couple weeks make! I popped a 4 week old bottle last weekend and it was well on it's way to being carbonated. It had a decent amount of head to it, and the flavors have started to balance and compliment each other nicely.

This one will def be a house staple from now on. Next time I'm giving it a boost with some brown sugar... How high can I push the abv before it starts to negatively affect the flavor?

Mine came in at 6.9% and you can barely taste the alcohol.
you followed the recipe and it came out at 6.9%?what was your og and what was your fg ?
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Old 05-20-2010, 05:50 PM   #794
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Anyone? Those that keg, what pressure do you set and forget at. I'm thinking around 15 PSI?

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Old 05-20-2010, 06:33 PM   #795
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I set my regulator at 9 psi at about 40-42 degrees. not sure how many volumes this is, but it seems to give me nice head, without going overboard.

I have 5-foot long - 3/16" diameter liquid lines.

15 sounds too high, unless you are serving at a warmer temp.

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Old 05-21-2010, 03:13 PM   #796
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So this recipe is definitely interesting and I think I'm going to give it a try. We already have a beer lined up for this weekends brew, so it'll be 2 weeks before I can brew the graff. Coincidentally, we'll be bottling a Bells Two Hearted clone that some day. It had 5 oz. of centennial 9%+ hops in it total and i'm using a irish red ale yeast from wyeast (IIRC).

Could I skip on the hop boil and just pitch on the yeast cake, or should I boil hops anyway? I've never reused a yeast cake or brewed cider, I don't know what kind of influence it could have. Any advice would be appreciated.

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Old 05-21-2010, 07:44 PM   #797
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Well, I tasted my batch that I made...

4 gal Food Lion Apple Juice
1 lb Extra Light DME
1 lb Briess Bavarian Wheat DME
4 oz Special B (145L)
4 oz Crystal 20L
2 oz Muntons Carapils (20L)

1/4oz Amarillo (9.1%) @30min
1/8oz Amarillo @5min

US-05

Topped up to a little over 5 gal...

3 weeks in primary, 1 week in bottles so far.

The verdict: I like it. Its a nice dark golden "cider" color, a little cloudy from the wheat and that it probably needs to settle in the bottles a little... The flavor is a little tart, but the grapefruit of the amarillo mixes in well. I used the mix of Special B and Crystal 20 because it was what I had on hand.

Changes for next time... I kind of like the tartness, and it is pretty good as is, but I'd be really tempted to replace the Crystal 20 with Honey Malt. I've made an Amarillo-Wheat IPA with a bunch of honey malt and I think the flavor would mix in very nicely. If not, I would probably still replace the Crystal 20 with a darker Crystal... perhaps all Special B...

Loved the quick brewing time...

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Old 05-23-2010, 06:36 PM   #798
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change the 20l to 120L it needs the dark malts IMO...

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Old 05-24-2010, 02:27 AM   #799
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Tasted my first bottle of Graff... yes, it's young, I couldn't wait It's about a month since it was brewed, 1wk in the bottle so far.

Tastes very good, even with the tartness of young cider present. Based on this 1gal test brew, I am most likely going to do a full batch, possibly with a little more hops and a little more malt.

Awesome recipe...

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Old 06-01-2010, 03:51 PM   #800
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So mine has been bubbling away for four weeks now. I could check the og and don't want to check fg until it stops bubbling as I feel there is no point. Does this seem too long?

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