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Old 11-13-2009, 03:58 PM   #491
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I saw someone asked this already but it didnt really get answered other than to say dry yeast is cheap why bother.

Has anyone washed the yeast from this and reused? My thought would be that you would have better more vialble yeast if you washed and reused. It's not a financial question but more of a quality question.

Has anyone had an experiences with reusing this yeast.
If you were to use it in another batch of graff it should be fine. I wouldn't use yeast from this in beer though, the yeast will be acclimated to fermenting fructose.
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Old 11-13-2009, 05:27 PM   #492
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If you were to use it in another batch of graff it should be fine. I wouldn't use yeast from this in beer though, the yeast will be acclimated to fermenting fructose.
What would happen if you used it in a beer? What kind of flavors would that kick out? Pardon the ignorance I've nerver done a cider before.
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Old 11-13-2009, 06:35 PM   #493
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I started a batch loosly based on Brandon 0's recipe last night.

-I used the yeast cake from my Amber Ale along with the bottom inch of beer that was left in the carboy (secondaary) It is wlp-029.
-4.5 gallons Store bought apple juice
-1.5 gallons water
-1/2 oz Cascade hops
-2lbs of light DME

Boil One gallon of water, and add hops for a 30 minute boil.
Add 2lbs DME and the nutrient at the 15 minute mark.
Cool wort and pour it into the carboy.
Swirl the carboy to get the good stuff in suspension.
Transfer to the 7 gallon bucket and add the juice.

I am now 20 hrs in and hoping the yeasties are making sweet sweet love in that bucket. I didn't realize the juice was cold from being in the back seat of my car and poured it on top of the wort (temp was at 56*f). I know this will eventually take off, but I am sure it will take a bit longer.

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Old 11-14-2009, 04:41 AM   #494
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I've seen several people posting saying that they've made their Graff with Safale S-04. How did those brews come out? I have a packet on hand and have liked it for other ciders, but if it didn't give a good effect to the Graff, I'll pick up a packet of Notty or S-05 when I inevitably start my batch.
So.. Results from S-04? Yea or nay?

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Old 11-14-2009, 04:53 AM   #495
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Mine is fermenting now! YAY!

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Old 11-14-2009, 03:43 PM   #496
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brew day. finally. so long as I can find some juice.

planning on 3lbs amber DME. 1/2 lb crystal 120L, 2 oz wheat flakes, 3 gallons cider, water to make 5 gallons. boiling DME and grains (after steeping) uk progress hops (acid 4.0) , 1/2 oz. 30 mins and a 1/2 oz for the last ten minutes.

looking for a bit more malt and beer flavor than I think brandon's graff recipe gives, hope this does the trick.

will report back with my findings.

Edit: got distracted and tossed in 1lb of crystal 120 instead of 1/2. also ended up using 4 gallons of cider. 2 of zeiglers and 2 of mussleman's. i was a bit worried about the potassium sorbate in the zeiglers so found the other stuff to help it along. uncorrected for temp the gravity of this was about 1.074 at about 75F give or take a few degrees. the malt was awesome, and it tasted pretty good with the apple juice too. it is about to start bubbling in the airlock.

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Old 11-14-2009, 03:43 PM   #497
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oh yeah, yeast - nottingham.

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Old 11-14-2009, 05:58 PM   #498
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just tried the hydrometer sample i drew and it tastes awesome so far.

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Old 11-14-2009, 11:55 PM   #499
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has anyone figured out the abv on this yet?

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Not very hard to do so. The OG on my batch wa 1.060. I'm assuming that it will finish around 1.015 (just from my experience with nottingham). I will take a sample soon, but if it's around those numbers I'm guessing it will be around 6% give or take a few points depending on where my yeast craps out.

I brewed mine last Sunday following the recipe to the "T" and it was bubbling away until this morning. I looked at my better bottle and the krausen has fallen, so I immagine that the primary fermentation is nearly done. I'll leave it in the primary @ 63 F for another couple of weeks and then I'm going to transfer to secondary till a keg opens up. My experience with cider is that it's best after about two or three months and I imagine this will be the same way.

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