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Old 02-07-2013, 10:37 PM   #2011
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Just got Home about 5 minutes ago and checked the Graff. It's fermenting like crazy!

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Old 02-07-2013, 11:16 PM   #2012
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I'm brewing up my first graff right now! 8 gallons with Cascades and Kirkland AJ, 100%, not from concentrate. I'm using white wheat instead of torrified - are they very different?

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Old 02-08-2013, 02:49 PM   #2013
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I bottle my first batch tomorrow or Sunday.

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Old 02-08-2013, 03:28 PM   #2014
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Made mine per the instructions on Feb 2nd. I ended up using 2 gallons of Tree Top and 2 gallons of Mott's apple juice. The store did not have 4 gallons of just one. I also used .5 oz of Sterling hops. I have never used sterling before but it sounded interesting. So far it has been a very steady and slow fermentation. Can't wait to try it. Cheers

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Old 02-09-2013, 06:45 PM   #2015
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I'm hoping this improves with age...it's not matching my expectations on the flavor I imagined! Very cloudy and tart even with a crash cool. If I do this again I'll go with a darker version and try a different yeast. Used Safale-05 and it fermented like crazy filling up the blow-off tube but I think I'd prefer more malt character as this currently tastes a lot like cloudy apfelwein. I used 4g of the fresh pressed cider from Sprouts--it was cloudy to start with so I'm wondering if the apple solids hang around with a fresh cider vs. a filtered apple juice. We'll see! Luckily I have four kegs of various brews to keep me occupied!

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Old 02-09-2013, 06:49 PM   #2016
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I just finished the recipe using Safe ale-05 and .33 oz hops. My OG is 1.054 is this about right?

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Old 02-10-2013, 04:31 PM   #2017
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Hello All, I'm planning on making a batch of this really soon. One question though, it seems like everyone uses apple juice for it, except Krrazy just now. I'd rather use real apple cider. Is there any downside? I'm wondering about how it clears since it is cloudy to start with? Is it more tart than juice?

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Hello All, I'm planning on making a batch of this really soon. One question though, it seems like everyone uses apple juice for it, except Krrazy just now. I'd rather use real apple cider. Is there any downside? I'm wondering about how it clears since it is cloudy to start with? Is it more tart than juice?

Thanks!

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You know, all this talk about using juice vs. cider is troubling to me. The way you or I define "cider" is totally arbitrary, even in the eyes of the FDA. It's ALL 100% apple juice regardless of the label.

www.applejuice.org/juicecider.html

So use something you like to drink straight. Unless we decide on a common definition for "cider" we might as well just talk about filtered vs. unfiltered juice.
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Old 02-10-2013, 05:48 PM   #2019
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You know, all this talk about using juice vs. cider is troubling to me. The way you or I define "cider" is totally arbitrary, even in the eyes of the FDA. It's ALL 100% apple juice regardless of the label.

www.applejuice.org/juicecider.html

So use something you like to drink straight. Unless we decide on a common definition for "cider" we might as well just talk about filtered vs. unfiltered juice.

Good point, never really thought about the difference between the two! Well, same questions then with filtered vs. unfiltered. Mainly interested in how unfiltered clears though.

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Old 02-10-2013, 08:58 PM   #2020
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I made this stuff. I love it and I've gotten a lot of positive feedback on it from others too. I'd like to enter it in an upcoming competition but I have no idea what bjcp category this would fit into. Any ideas? Thanks in advance!

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