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Old 12-18-2011, 07:58 PM   #1541
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I made a Ffarg. It's the exact opposite of Graff. 2 gallons juice and four pounds DME with 1/2 lb. Crystal 120l, boiled 1 oz. Willamette 4.8%aa for one hour for a 5 gallon batch.

Graff is a good cider but Ffarg is much more to my liking.

You should post the full Ffarg recipe.
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Old 12-18-2011, 08:04 PM   #1542
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I don't have a beersmith file or anything on it but I did start a new thread with a few more details.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/ffarg-apple-ale-287198/

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Old 12-20-2011, 08:27 PM   #1543
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I just realized I made a mistake on this most recent batch. My brain misfired and I put the whole 1oz of 5% cascade hops into the boil instead of just .5oz. I was already planning on back sweetening it but should i still be expecting it to need extra extra extra aging to let the hops die down a bit?

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Old 12-20-2011, 08:46 PM   #1544
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I just realized I made a mistake on this most recent batch. My brain misfired and I put the whole 1oz of 5% cascade hops into the boil instead of just .5oz. I was already planning on back sweetening it but should i still be expecting it to need extra extra extra aging to let the hops die down a bit?
I wouldn't worry about it. I made a batch with an ounce of Cascade in October and sucked it down just as soon after bottling it as my other batches.
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:48 PM   #1545
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I wouldn't worry about it. I made a batch with an ounce of Cascade in October and sucked it down just as soon after bottling it as my other batches.
Good to hear. I am planning on kegging it this weekend and bringing it to a new years party the following weekend... I'll probably wait until everyone's had a drink or two first so their senses are dulled and then start handing out the knockout juice and see what happens.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:02 PM   #1546
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Good to hear. I am planning on kegging it this weekend and bringing it to a new years party the following weekend... I'll probably wait until everyone's had a drink or two first so their senses are dulled and then start handing out the knockout juice and see what happens.
It's just one of those things where you go with your gut and your palate. Since it's not a clone of anything, nobody is going to say "man, this is hoppier than I expected it to be". Keg it, carb it, and taste it. Taste good? Then it's ready to go. Too green? Then start with some hoppy beer and switch to graff and nobody will notice.

I know folks age graff, but I haven't bothered, because it tastes great the day I bottle it. Would it taste better after a month? Sure, I guess, but I've never had any last long enough to find out!

Of course, my opinions are just that.
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Old 12-22-2011, 03:23 PM   #1547
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Old 12-23-2011, 12:17 AM   #1548
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I'm a newb with this and am wondering about pasturizing. Do I need to do that with cider? Another thread I read on here says I need to watch out for shrapnel if I don't.

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Old 12-23-2011, 03:25 AM   #1549
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I'm a newb with this and am wondering about pasturizing. Do I need to do that with cider? Another thread I read on here says I need to watch out for shrapnel if I don't.
It depends on what you start with and what ingredients you use. You shouldn't need to pasteurize any juice you use if you buy juice that's already been pasteurized. And you're boiling the "partial mash" portion of the recipe, so that's clean. I would suggest boiling, or at least pasteurizing any juice or cider you use that hasn't already been through that.

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Old 12-23-2011, 03:44 AM   #1550
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I'm a newb with this and am wondering about pasturizing. Do I need to do that with cider? Another thread I read on here says I need to watch out for shrapnel if I don't.
Sorry for the lame question, but what are you talking about, shrapnel?
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