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Old 11-20-2010, 03:46 PM   #61
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Just brewed this about two weeks ago. OG was 1.070 and the FG was 1.006. Not sure what went wrong during fermentation, but it is pretty cidery. However, it still tasted good. Only time will tell if it's going to be OK.

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Old 11-20-2010, 05:47 PM   #62
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Just brewed this about two weeks ago. OG was 1.070 and the FG was 1.006. Not sure what went wrong during fermentation, but it is pretty cidery. However, it still tasted good. Only time will tell if it's going to be OK.
Uh oh. Dude, 1.070 - 1.006 is some severe attenuation; 94%. The really low final gravity and cidery flavor lead me to believe you may have an infection. The spice flavor should still be there but I think you're going to be missing out on the malt profile.

The beer will be fine and if anything will probably just need a little more time. Thanks for giving the recipe a shot!
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Old 11-20-2010, 09:03 PM   #63
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Uh oh. Dude, 1.070 - 1.006 is some severe attenuation; 94%. The really low final gravity and cidery flavor lead me to believe you may have an infection. The spice flavor should still be there but I think you're going to be missing out on the malt profile.

The beer will be fine and if anything will probably just need a little more time. Thanks for giving the recipe a shot!
That's what I was afraid of. We'll see
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Old 11-30-2010, 02:28 AM   #64
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I just put this in the carboy for the final 3 days of fermentation. I can't wait to keg this.

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Old 12-29-2010, 12:16 AM   #65
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Uh oh. Dude, 1.070 - 1.006 is some severe attenuation; 94%. The really low final gravity and cidery flavor lead me to believe you may have an infection. The spice flavor should still be there but I think you're going to be missing out on the malt profile.

The beer will be fine and if anything will probably just need a little more time. Thanks for giving the recipe a shot!
To quickly follow up, I'm pretty certain that there is no infection. I believe that I must have somehow screwed up the Brown Sugar addition (probably added too much). At the time, I didn't have a measuring tool for the Brown Sugar and tried to "eye" it.

The beer is just really really cidery and dry. Even with this, it's still pretty good. Hopefully I won't screw it up this next time.

Thanks again for the recipe.
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Old 12-29-2010, 04:00 PM   #66
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Well at least it's still drinkable, right?

And yeah, brown sugar can be deceptive due to it always clumping and being easily packed down.

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Yes, it's drinkable. I've noticed that even though it is very dry, a little bit of age has already helped.

I don't think it will ever be as good as the original recipe, but I don't really care. We learn more from mistake batches than the ones that go right. Since then, I've bought the proper scales and measuring equipment. This mistake won't happen again.

I plan on attempting this recipe again in the future. I'll let you know how it goes.

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Great! Can't wait to read about it!

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Another update. The beer has really made a turn around and is doing a lot better.

Still very dry, but the pumpkin and spices seem to be coming out much more than it did. The extra month or two has really helped and made it a far better beer.

As mentioned, once I redo this with the proper amount of Brown Sugar, I think it will be great.

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As for the level of spice flavor: you can always make a tincture. Take some of the pumpkin pie spice (like half a tablespoon or something like that) and pour a measured amount of vodka over it, making sure there's enough to saturate all of the spice. Let that soak for about three days and send it through a coffee filter, collecting the vodka/spice liquid (make sure it's devoid of spice particulates.) Then take a measured amount of beer from your fermenter and add the tincture (vodka/spice liquid) drop-wise and taste until you find the level of spice flavor that satisfies you. Then scale up for 5 gallons (or however much you ended up with) and add that much of the tincture or your corny keg or bottling bucket when you rack.
I mentioned this earlier in the thread to someone who wasn't getting the spice profile they wanted.

I'm even considering adding a little cinnamon tincture to mine... seems to have faded a bit. Or I could just get girly and rim my pint glasses with cinnamon-sugar
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