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mjap52 · 12-13-2012, 02:42 PM

I just moved 10 gallons of this into the "lagering" phase. My SG was on at 1.092, and the two different carboys finished at 1.011 and 1.012. So not too bad. I also used 3# of store bought D2 syrup, and 3# of homemade, so we'll see how that turns out (all mixed, so it won't be a side by side sort of thing).

Just a question: My temps peaked out around 78-79* Will this be significantly different had it peaked around the 82 it should have?

Also, I did the "Old World" with a double decoction.

mjap52 · 12-13-2012, 03:00 PM

Also, one more question: Has anyone tried washing this yeast? I washed it and have 3 jars of it in my fridge. I don't plan on using it for another westy, but maybe do an American IPA or Pale Ale with it, similar to Lagunitas Lil Supthin' Wild.

**jeepinjeepin** · 12-13-2012, 04:47 PM

Let's stop derailing this recipe thread with the commercial US release. I found this thread.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/official-us-retail-locations-westvleteren-xii-371980/

**lunshbox** · 12-14-2012, 12:10 PM

I have this one on the docket to make over Christmas. I am definitely using ECY Abby yeast for this one. Has anyone tried this yet?

**smokinghole** · 12-14-2012, 12:46 PM

I have used ECY09 on my last batch and it is very similar to 530. I read that either 09 or ecy13 are a defunct yeast company's estimable offering. It may be true, but it is likely a different genetic varient based on when the cultures were each sourced.

**smokinghole** · 12-14-2012, 12:46 PM

Westmalle not whatever my phone autocorrected.

**lunshbox** · 12-14-2012, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokinghole

I have used ECY09 on my last batch and it is very similar to 530. I read that either 09 or ecy13 are a defunct yeast company's estimable offering. It may be true, but it is likely a different genetic varient based on when the cultures were each sourced.

What kind of temperatures did you ferment at? Was it hardier than 530? I thought about doing a side by side but I don't have the carboy space right now.

ultravista · 12-14-2012, 01:47 PM

To those of you that allow your beer to finish at 80 to 85 F, what are you using to warm the wort?

For example, this time of year in Las Vegas, the temp inside the house is around 73, the garage is in the 40s. In the summer time, I could do this in the garage and refrigerate down to 80.

What's the best means to warm a 5 gallon volume of wort to 80 degrees?

I have a few seed starter mats, similar to a waterbed heater but smaller, meant to keep a seed tray warm - like this one

The information printed on the front indicates that it's designed to raise soil temperatures about 20 degree F above ambient temperatures.

If controlled from a Johnson A419, would it work? Is there something better?

**jagec** · 12-14-2012, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultravista

To those of you that allow your beer to finish at 80 to 85 F, what are you using to warm the wort?

For example, this time of year in Las Vegas, the temp inside the house is around 73, the garage is in the 40s. In the summer time, I could do this in the garage and refrigerate down to 80.

What's the best means to warm a 5 gallon volume of wort to 80 degrees?

I have a few seed starter mats, similar to a waterbed heater but smaller, meant to keep a seed tray warm - like this one

The information printed on the front indicates that it's designed to raise soil temperatures about 20 degree F above ambient temperatures.

If controlled from a Johnson A419, would it work? Is there something better?

If you've got temperature control, essentially any heating element will work. The seed starter mats should be fine. Lots of people have had good luck just wrapping the fermenter in blankets and letting the yeast make their own heat.

ultravista · 12-14-2012, 04:23 PM

If using a mat, do you suggest strapped to the carboy or the carboy sitting on it?

I'm now considering an aquarium heater and water bath.