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Old 07-29-2013, 05:39 PM   #21
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I just let it hang out on the cake the whole time but either way would work. Have fun, it's delish!

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JWeidman - not sure if you got an answer about a 10 gallon batch but what I would do is make a 10 gallon batch. Rack 5 gallons to a secondary, with the Jim Beam soaked oak chips and leave the other 5 gallon in the primary. After the "oak aging" rack them together.

Allagash states that they blend "oaked" and "unoaked" to make the finished beer. I have yet to find a clone recipe that states what quantities of each to use though. In the end your looking to find the right taste of bourbon when it gets mixed. To me both the Curieux and the Bourbon black have a nice subtle bourbon taste to them, many over do the bourbon aspect and you lose the base beer taste. So, I think your just looking for a subtle bourbon finish as the end result.

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Old 02-09-2014, 09:03 PM   #23
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JWeidman - not sure if you got an answer about a 10 gallon batch but what I would do is make a 10 gallon batch. Rack 5 gallons to a secondary, with the Jim Beam soaked oak chips and leave the other 5 gallon in the primary. After the "oak aging" rack them together.

Allagash states that they blend "oaked" and "unoaked" to make the finished beer. I have yet to find a clone recipe that states what quantities of each to use though. In the end your looking to find the right taste of bourbon when it gets mixed. To me both the Curieux and the Bourbon black have a nice subtle bourbon taste to them, many over do the bourbon aspect and you lose the base beer taste. So, I think your just looking for a subtle bourbon finish as the end result.
This is one of my favorite beers, been working with a recipe so this will be one of my next beers.

On a tour to Allagash they said they blend at about 80/20 beam barrel triple to fresh triple.
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Old 02-20-2014, 09:19 PM   #24
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This is my favorite beer of all time, I can't wait to make this. I know there was some discussion in the other thread about the necessity of the two types of yeast, but I was looking for a substitute for the Wyeast 3522, and apparently it is the same yeast as the WLP550? If that's the case, it's simply a matter of having a proper starter made, yes?

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f163/best-replacement-wyeast-belgian-ardennes-3522-out-these-options-184872/

http://www.mrmalty.com/yeast.htm#Wyeast_vs_WLP

REALLY looking forward to trying this out, especially after all the positive feedback in the other thread! Thanks for putting it together!

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Old 03-08-2014, 06:54 PM   #25
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I went to go visit Allagash two summers ago and they instantly became one of my favorites.

This recipe looks fantastic. I've got all ingredients and am ready to go.

I brew in 1 gallon batches for versatility in addition to spatial constraints. I've read and heard a lot of issues with bourbon-oak over-powering the 1 gallon batches. How much oak chip do you recommend that I use and how long should I soak them?

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If your using oak chips in a one gallon batch I would leave it on the oak long and wouldn't use very much at all. The chips have a lot of surface area so it won't take long to get the oak flavor imparted.

I used 3oz of cubes mixed with about 3.5oz of Devils Cut Bourbon for 5 gallons. The oak is definitely there, not overpowering but its noticeable.

I soaked mine for I think 4 weeks total. 2 weeks before brewing then primaried for 2 weeks then racked onto the oak for 2 weeks.

I know that's not a straight answer but I think your going to want to take sole each day after a few days and then decide when it tastes good to you. The oak has became stronger as the beer has aged so keep that in mind.

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If your using oak chips in a one gallon batch I would leave it on the oak long and wouldn't use very much at all. The chips have a lot of surface area so it won't take long to get the oak flavor imparted.

I used 3oz of cubes mixed with about 3.5oz of Devils Cut Bourbon for 5 gallons. The oak is definitely there, not overpowering but its noticeable.

I soaked mine for I think 4 weeks total. 2 weeks before brewing then primaried for 2 weeks then racked onto the oak for 2 weeks.

I know that's not a straight answer but I think your going to want to take sole each day after a few days and then decide when it tastes good to you. The oak has became stronger as the beer has aged so keep that in mind.

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Thanks! This somewhat helps. I was thinking that since these chips are thin, it wouldn't take too long to soak in, nor absorb out. Would it make a difference if I just added the chips in w/o soaking and then add the bourbon towards the end of the secondary? I've never oaked before.
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