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06-24-2011, 03:27 PM
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Update - I did a tasting of the Amaranth version of my table beer, a review and a pic are posted here
To give a quick overview of it though, I think its a bit more herbally than the original was, a bit less creamy (less wheat) but overall its a nice easy drinking bee
I think amaranth could pair very well with a saison yeast or in something light with brett b. Anything with crystal malt or darker grains though and I think the flavor of the amaranth would be covered up, it could still provide some benefit to darker beers though as it has a lot of protein and produced a very dense head |
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08-05-2011, 10:53 PM
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I just did a review of the original Belgian Table Beer for my blog. After reviewing it I read Ryan's review...let's just say that they are VERY similar. I'll take that as proof that this is a fantastic recipe. Perfectly named, too...this is the one you want to drink with breakfast, lunch, dinner, and everything in between.
Appearance: very pale golden color, and now brilliantly clear (was a bit hazy from suspended yeast at first); a finger of brilliant white head dissipates into a nice ring of foam with some decent lacing
Aroma: bready, sweet malt aroma with mild spice, banana, and bubblegum notes in the background; not as super pronounced as in other Belgians, but actually quite lovely and delicate
Flavor: really nice biscuity flavor from the Pilsener malt, with a light sweetness (though the beer is quite dry) and smooth creaminess, floral and slightly earthy hop flavor all throughout the middle from the wonderful EKGs; subtle, quintessentially Belgian notes of spice, fruit (especially pear) and bubblegum towards the end with just enough bitterness at the back of the tongue
Mouthfeel: I was intentionally conservative with the carbonation on this one, and it really paid off. Low to medium carbonation with a silky light body and wonderful smoothness/creaminess from the flaked wheat
Overall: This is a perfect summer beer and an ideal session beer, and next year I'll probably brew a batch earlier in the year so that I can start drinking it right in June. I have loved how the flavor of the beer has evolved since I cracked the first bottle, which is good because it encourages patience, truly a virtue when one is a homebrewer. As Ryan said on his blog, this beer pairs handsomely with food, particularly summer flavors like barbecue. I noticed that it went particularly well with a light, lemony vegetarian pasta dish that I made as well. Basically, I loved this beer and I am really excited to do some variations of it, particularly something along the lines of Ryan's dark version, which I think would make for a great autumn table beer.
Prost! 
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01-03-2012, 04:04 AM
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Yet ANOTHER saison added to my list for next summer!
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01-09-2012, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by porterguy
Yet ANOTHER saison added to my list for next summer!
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I wouldnt say its very saison-ish, but its a great beer, and will disappear way to quickly
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02-24-2012, 03:53 PM
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Thought I would update the thread again.
I brewed another table beer, this time using toasted millet. Similar basic framework as all the other table beers Ive brewed, just different ingredients.
Millet Table Beer
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03-10-2012, 09:41 PM
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I'm thinking about brewing this so that by the time spring is here, I'll have a nice quenching beer to drink down.
Being a pretty new brewer, I had a few questions about this recipe. Hope you don't mind answering them for me (even though they may sound quite elementary)
-The 6.5 Pilsner and 1.5 Flaked Wheat is in POUNDS, right?
-I don't see Mt Rainier hops offered at my LHBS. Can you recommend something else?
-Is the 1.0 oz Fuggles KO<170f mean that you add the Fuggles after the boil when the wort is below 170*?
-Is this a 45 min. mash at 150*?
- You only did a primary fermentation for 14 days at 65*?
-Do you not have a target FG for this brew?
Most appreciated!
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03-12-2012, 01:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffoC6
I'm thinking about brewing this so that by the time spring is here, I'll have a nice quenching beer to drink down.
Being a pretty new brewer, I had a few questions about this recipe. Hope you don't mind answering them for me (even though they may sound quite elementary) 
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Hey No worries I love to help
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Originally Posted by JeffoC6
-The 6.5 Pilsner and 1.5 Flaked Wheat is in POUNDS, right?
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Yes
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Originally Posted by JeffoC6
-I don't see Mt Rainier hops offered at my LHBS. Can you recommend something else?
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The bittering hops (60min addition) dont matter too much, you could use fuggles instead to keep everything simple. Just make sure you use a brewing program to get the IBU's correct
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Originally Posted by JeffoC6
-Is the 1.0 oz Fuggles KO<170f mean that you add the Fuggles after the boil when the wort is below 170*?
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Yes
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Originally Posted by JeffoC6
-Is this a 45 min. mash at 150*?
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You got it, although if this is one of your first AG beers you might just run with a 60min mash to make sure
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Originally Posted by JeffoC6
- You only did a primary fermentation for 14 days at 65*?
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Kinda, I think it probably set about 3-4wks total, but after the first two the temp was elevated. (not much was going on at this point though, I was just lazy and didnt keg it) You can ferment it slightly warmer if you like, it will just be a bit more estery, which isnt a bad thing
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-Do you not have a target FG for this brew?
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I never do when brewing really, I looked and I didnt write this one down, I recall it being around 1008 though
Good luck with the recipe, sounds like its one of your first all grain batches? Id love to hear how it goes
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03-13-2012, 04:12 AM
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If you are considering a Belgian table beer, I would suggest trying your hand at a Belgian pale ale BJCP category 16B. Seems just like what the folks on this thread are looking for. Just made one myself and it is a great tasting Belgian beer with many of the Belgian components by only 4.9% ABV.
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03-13-2012, 02:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ylpaul2000
If you are considering a Belgian table beer, I would suggest trying your hand at a Belgian pale ale BJCP category 16B. Seems just like what the folks on this thread are looking for. Just made one myself and it is a great tasting Belgian beer with many of the Belgian components by only 4.9% ABV.
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In a way thats what my recipe is, but lighter in color, and a much more prevalent hop character
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