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Old 06-12-2010, 05:04 AM   #41
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This is still the best recipe that I've come up with. As Boralyl attested, everyone seems to like this beer. I don't know how many people have shelved the BMC they brought to a party at my house to suck on these all night. And his pictures are like porn to me as I've been delving into all-grain and when I get a chance to brew I've been using home-grown hops. So many experiments, so little time.......

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When plugged into Beersmith I get around 25-30 IBU depending on leaf or pellet hops and the AA%. That's where I try to keep it. The '09 leaf Amarillo that I bought last fall from Hopsdirect was seeded and 9.4% AA. Maybe I'm crazy but the seeds seem to add a catty/nutty mix to the beer. Dunno.

mixmasterob: If you want a more lawnmower style I would go for the advice on trying to actually clone Gumballhead. The side by side pics above actually look more golden than I remember the real thing being. You'll get something good either way and probably win an award with my original recipe but it is just a little sweet for the style. You won't lose with either of your recipes I promise! My one experience with Summit was a let-down. Centennial is a favorite and I usually have some around since I grow it. I haven't used Citra but I want too. Would be good to hear how it does with this recipe.

sfinger: VERY interested for a side by side of a recipe following my recommendations. I really think that the extra "sweet bread" taste brought to the table by the caravienne is essential but your feedback will tell the story. It was a long drive there after a day of kayaking here but I think that it should be pretty close.

jarod: Aging actually hurts this beer in my experience. I start drinking them after a week as long as they are carbed and the flavor falls off from there.

In early January I started brewing all-grain. Due to moving and all that that entails my brewing has been limited. I intend to try to nail this with the new process but it'll be a bit because I keep telling SWMBO how great her brown and kolsch will be on tap(finally have enough room for a draft system). Please keep the pictures and feedback coming and sharing this wonderful brew. Looks like I should check this a bit more often

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Old 06-14-2010, 07:38 PM   #42
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sfinger: VERY interested for a side by side of a recipe following my recommendations. I really think that the extra "sweet bread" taste brought to the table by the caravienne is essential but your feedback will tell the story. It was a long drive there after a day of kayaking here but I think that it should be pretty close.QUOTE]

Will let you know cuinrearview, a couple more weeks and I'll give it a try (bottled on 6/6)...

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Old 06-14-2010, 08:04 PM   #43
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I am brewing the altered recipe as I type this. Gonna hop with amarillo, I am pretty exited about this one.
1LB 2-Row
1LB White Wheat
1/4LB CaraVienne
1/4LB CaraPils

I am going to add a 10 minute addition of Amarillo as well, 1/2oz.

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Old 06-14-2010, 09:13 PM   #44
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Also, I am contemplating using Nottingham instead of US05. I had the best attenuation to date using Nottingham in my last batch, I have had problems with US05 in the past. Any suggestions? Either way?

EDIT: For the record, I went with US05.

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Old 06-15-2010, 06:43 PM   #45
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Not sure why these uploaded sideways, but you get the picture. Pitched the yeast @ 7pm yesterday. Woke up to this, looks like it got a nice quick start.


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Old 06-16-2010, 07:14 AM   #46
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ya know what "c"? i feel the need to brew again and i think i'll try this one. what you doing on sunday morning early afternoon? my swmbo has to cover for a vacay so i'm open.

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Old 06-19-2010, 08:44 PM   #47
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sfinger: VERY interested for a side by side of a recipe following my recommendations. I really think that the extra "sweet bread" taste brought to the table by the caravienne is essential but your feedback will tell the story. It was a long drive there after a day of kayaking here but I think that it should be pretty close.QUOTE]

Will let you know cuinrearview, a couple more weeks and I'll give it a try (bottled on 6/6)...

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I wouldn't hesitate to chill one and try it now Scott. One of the things that I really liked about this beer was that as soon as it carbed it was ready to drink. It really tastes good fresh, and the hops seem to fade quickly, at least to my palate.
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Not sure why these uploaded sideways, but you get the picture. Pitched the yeast @ 7pm yesterday. Woke up to this, looks like it got a nice quick start.



I've yet to try Notty with this recipe and don't think I'll mess with a good thing. I like US-05 better in all of my hoppy beers but that's strictly my opinion. If you can get that carboy any cooler mix I'd highly suggest it. I usually primary in the low 60s. It definately slows things down as I never have it start that quick but I like this beer CLEAN. That being said I'm anxious to hear how it comes out. It'll be a nice summer beer for sure!

Erik: Sorry to hear 'bout the downed tree man. Nothing I'd rather do on Father's Day than run a saw in 80 degree weather. I would like to brew again with you and I actually thought about it the other day while talking to the guy on my line that I got started. He's planning on doing a couple batches of the WPA over his shutdown and wants to get together. He's still a couple brewdays from cutting the cord. Initially I thought I'd take a stab at it with all-grain but if I don't make Shannon something soon I fear my days of brewing may be numbered. But if he was doing my original recipe and you maybe trying something that we come up with AG it would be interesting. Just throwing it out there.
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I wouldn't hesitate to chill one and try it now Scott. One of the things that I really liked about this beer was that as soon as it carbed it was ready to drink. It really tastes good fresh, and the hops seem to fade quickly, at least to my palate.
Thanks for the heads up Cuinrearview, I was going to let it go another week but took your advice and threw a sixer of them in the cooler for a father's day party...they were definitely ready--the carbonation and mouthfeel was very close to the original. Obviously, the clone (brewed extract) came out a bit darker than the original but that was to be expected. Again, pics attached are from a blackberry but you get the idea.

The clone is very close in taste to the original, fresh and with Amarillo coming through strong. The nose is a bigger Amarillo hoppiness on the original than the clone, maybe I needed a bit more Amarillo in the dry hop?

The beer tasted great--everyone wanted more and the recipe is very close to the original. If you want it close go with cuinrearview's suggestions. I am curious if anyone has suggestions on how to get more initial hop aroma as that, besides color, was the only major difference between the OG and the Clone...

I will certainly brew this again and other than trying to bump up the initial hop aroma hit, which is really no huge deal, I don't think I will mess with the recipe as I really like how it came out. I think cuinrearview's recommended changes from his recipe if you want to get close to the original are good ones--everyone agreed it was a good, fresh tasting beer that was not too far off the stuff from Munster...
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Wow, I let this sit in the keg another week, and am dry hopping in the keg, and it's very very good. It's going to go fast. It's WAY too easy to drink. I haven't had the original (can't get it in TX) but am heading to IL in a couple weeks, so i'll try to pick some up.

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