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Old 03-10-2011, 06:57 PM   #101
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After doing some reading/research, I've decided to narrow down my ruination clone to the following two recipes.

1. Yoopers or...
2. Dec '08 BYO recipe

I will be doing a partial mash and just had some general questions about the differences between the two recipes. Here's what I've noticed

-The BYO recipe includes irish moss for the last 15min of boil
-BYO uses 1 lb briess 2-row malt and 14oz of Briess crystal malt 15L vs Yooper's 1lb of crystal 20L for steeping
-BYO shows steeping in 3qts water for 45minutes (kind of low?) then adding water to make 6 gals of wort (isn't this kind of strange?)
- What is yoopers steeping schedule?
-Hop schedule is slightly different
-Yeast BYO/Stone recommended WLP 002 vs Yoopers Pacman (I heard using WLP 007 is actually the closest to Stone's)

Just looking for a little help here in making this clone before buying all my materials. Has anyone made and compared the two recipes?

For reference, here's a link to the Dec '08 BYO clone:

http://www.stonebrew.com/news/081201/

Thanks in advance!

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Old 03-14-2011, 04:31 AM   #102
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Just finished bottling my first batch of this recipe, and I can already tell this is one tasty brew. I filled 2 Ruination bombers I had laying around so I can do a blind taste test when it's ready.

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Old 03-19-2011, 04:34 PM   #103
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I'm going to give this a go today.
The first and only time I've had Ruination was when I was out at Stone a few months ago.
I love this beer, but it is a little hard to find around here.

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Old 03-19-2011, 10:19 PM   #104
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One of my favorites thanks for the recipe!!!

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Drinking one of my delicious Ruination clones.

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Yooper, I'm an extract brewer at this time and really appreciate the fact that you always add an extract alternative to your recipes. I've been doing some research about hop utilization and the idea that you get less attenuation in a more concentrated 2.5 gal. boil than in a full boil. I looked at your Dogfish recipe and noticed that the amount of hops were increased for a 2.5 gal. extract boil. I looked at this recipe and notice that the hop schedule is the same for full boil, or 2.5-gal. boil. I'm still pretty new to it all and want to make sure I've got a good handle on things. Any advice or info is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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Old 03-26-2011, 01:24 AM   #107
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I got to try Ruination for the first time a few days ago. The aroma was amazing, very floral and citrusy. The flavor however, was not what I was expecting. It seemed overly bitter to me. It is possible that I got an older bottle. It's hard to get fresh Stone beers over here where I'm at. Is Ruination supposed to be that bitter?

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Yooper, I'm an extract brewer at this time and really appreciate the fact that you always add an extract alternative to your recipes. I've been doing some research about hop utilization and the idea that you get less attenuation in a more concentrated 2.5 gal. boil than in a full boil. I looked at your Dogfish recipe and noticed that the amount of hops were increased for a 2.5 gal. extract boil. I looked at this recipe and notice that the hop schedule is the same for full boil, or 2.5-gal. boil. I'm still pretty new to it all and want to make sure I've got a good handle on things. Any advice or info is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Because 1/2 the extract is added late in the boil, it closely approximates the consistency of the full AG boil, so you can follow the recipe/hopping as indicated. Just make sure you follow the recipe and add 1/2 the extract as directed at the beginning and 1/2 at the end!
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I got to try Ruination for the first time a few days ago. The aroma was amazing, very floral and citrusy. The flavor however, was not what I was expecting. It seemed overly bitter to me. It is possible that I got an older bottle. It's hard to get fresh Stone beers over here where I'm at. Is Ruination supposed to be that bitter?
It's pretty bitter, but with great hops flavor too.
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Ah, now I'm starting to get it. By adding half of the extract late, you keep the gravity down and the hops can do their thing. Thanks for clearing that up!!!

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