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I am Jack's cold sweat
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dude this is 17.5%...jesus! Hows the alcohol bite and is it thick at all? mouthfeel etc
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I think your math is off a bit, ABV should be 12.25. Alcohol bite was barely noticeable. The big hop aroma with faint oakiness, and the smoothness of the beer (I feel Victory is a smooth malt flavor) barely make it noticable. WLP099's yeast character might mask it some as well, I've never used it before. |
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I am Jack's cold sweat
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yea i plugged 1.151 into promash by mistake... oops. ok thats a bit more managable. looks good.
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THIRSTY GOAT BREWING COMPANY On Deck:Alaskan Amber Primary: Secondary: Creme De Phlegm Flemish Red Bottled: Apfelwein, Stoneface RIS, Helles Bock, Tusch's Blueberry Cider, Tangerine Wine, Cherry Dubbel, Banana Wine, Parched Villager IPA, Vanilla Bourbon Porter, Chocolate Porter Kegged:Kitchen Sink (sorta) Black IPA Projects: Keezer Conversion Brix-->SG 1,2,3,4 |
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Be good to your yeast...
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Popped one of these yesterday thanks to a beer swap through Soper. Thanks! Aroma: some hops, but the hop aroma has faded considerably, I mostly get malt and bready character from the Victory malt. Next time around I would recommend leaving all of the dry hops in for a month, I think you will get a stronger aroma out of them. Body/mouthfeel: very rich, reminds me a lot of Dogfish Head 90. Plenty of malt body to hold up to the hops. Nice firm brown head. Consider using 5-10% sugar to lighten the body just a little bit. Flavor: a rich, malt focused IIPA. While I feel it could use a little more hop flavor, the hop bitterness was fine. It definitely stands out as being more hoppy than a BW even though it is a BW strength beer, but I think it could be a little bit drier. Pitching more yeast and using 5-10% sugar would help there. Overall impression: a very enjoyable beer. Strong hop and malt aroma, rich malt flavor followed by hop flavor, and a noticeable lingering biscuit finish from the victory malt. I guessed there was victory without even seeing the recipe. It comes through perfectly. The oak is noticeable but isn't overly heavy; I think you nailed it. Esters are appropriate for the style, indicating proper pitching rate and fermentation temp was followed. If you make a few adjustments to your water (below), I really believe this could be an award winning beer!Process notes/suggestions for improvement: there is an astringency noticeable from using hard water with chloramine or chlorine present. I recommend using some RO water to reduce the hardness of your water for hoppier beers, and consider adding some hardness back in using gypsum if your calcium winds up being low (under 50ppm). Your local water dept. can provide you with details on the ppm calcium and total alkalinity to help determine what adjustments are required. For the chlorine/chloramine, you can filter your water slowly through a carbon filter and treat it with 1/4 of a campden tablet per 5 gallons. I like to filter my water into 5 gallon orange buckets and toss in 1/4 of a crushed campden tablet. I stir that up and let it sit around until it's ready to heat. The campden will release sulfur dioxide which will drive off the chlorine so it won't bond with the malt forming chlorophenols. It only requires about 20 minutes to drive off the chlorine, but some folks prefer to treat their water the night before they brew when they do their other prep such as measure out hops and mill grain. If you have softened water, make sure you aren't using it for any part of your process; cleaning equipment and preparing starters should be done with hard water from an outdoor tap, or after bypassing the softener, softened water contains a lot of free chlorine so even a small amount can cause a noticeable astringency. |
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Sacc, Thanks for the review! I really appreciate it! I'm probably going to do this beer again soon with a few slight modifications. 1: All grain, obvious reasons. 2: WLP001 or WLP007 yeast. The astringency you get from this beer is because of the WLP099 yeast that I used. I actually used high quality all RO water for this beer (as I have done with all my beers) so I know thats not an issue. I even go so far as to measure out hundredths of a gram of salt additions to get my water profile exactly where I want it (but not when I made this beer). Go and taste a 120 minute IPA and remember that astringent quality from this beer, you'll find the same kind of thing going on. They both use more or less the same yeast for fermentation. 3: Secondary stage dry hopping during force carbonation. I think if I leave the hops in for much longer than the 4 weeks, you start getting vegetal off flavors from the hops that I don't want in my beer. So after I rack from secondary to corny for aging, I'll add in some fresh leaf hops and let that go for a few more weeks (instead of just one) and then crank up the CO2. I just did the above technique on a new IIPA that I'll post the recipe as soon as I taste it. |
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Upstate, SC
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RO is reverse osmosis, its a way of making very pure water. The place I get my water from is sodium exchange RO, which leaves it almost completely blank with the exception of 7ppm of sodium. That makes it easy because I can add in whatever brewing salts I need and I can have my exact water profile that I want. |
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Be good to your yeast...
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No bleach in your brewhouse? Really tasted like chlorine to me, unless you had a wild yeast infection, which can also cause chlorophenols; that seems highly unlikely though... |
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No bleach, I'm blaming WLP099 for the off flavor. Taste a young 120 min IPA sometime and you'll get some very similar characters, the yeast they use is nearly the same. |
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