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Old 06-12-2011, 11:24 PM   #41
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Gonna give this one a go on Thursday. What efficiency is your recipe set for Tim?
Glad you are brewing this. I do 75% for all my recipes as a base, but I have been getting around 80% lately. This recipe is set for 75%

By the way this beer just won another 1st place at Slurp and Burp for "Northwest" Style Ale. I dry hopped 3 smaller doses and that really brought the aroma. I did .25 oz each Simcoe, Cascade and Amarillo every 3 days for 9 days.

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Old 06-14-2011, 08:48 PM   #42
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Tim,

I have been looking for a good "india red ale" recipe for quite a while. I brewed Jamil's "Evil Dead Red" a while back and was somewhat dissapointed in it. This looks like a very nice recipe.

It seems that you have brewed this a number of times, with different hop combinations, and at least one grain change (the C120). Would you mind posting the recipe again in its current form (either the recipe that recently won again, or the version that has been your favorite)? That would be really helpful. I think that I will brew this in the comming months, and will post back with results if I do. Thanks for your help.

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Old 06-15-2011, 05:41 AM   #43
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Both are great beers, the original with the 80L and 40L is a bit lighter in color and less complex.

The version I just did used .5 lbs C-120 and .75 C-40. The only judges suggestion was that it may have been a bit sweet, and recommended notching down the crystal. I really like it as is, but I will bring it down to 6oz 120 and 10oz 60 next time to see how that is.

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Tim,

I have been looking for a good "india red ale" recipe for quite a while. I brewed Jamil's "Evil Dead Red" a while back and was somewhat dissapointed in it. This looks like a very nice recipe.

It seems that you have brewed this a number of times, with different hop combinations, and at least one grain change (the C120). Would you mind posting the recipe again in its current form (either the recipe that recently won again, or the version that has been your favorite)? That would be really helpful. I think that I will brew this in the comming months, and will post back with results if I do. Thanks for your help.

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Old 06-15-2011, 07:03 PM   #44
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Tim,

Thanks for the info. So is this what your current recipe is looking like?

Pale Ale Malt 6.5 lbs
Munich type 1 (10L) 5 lbs.
Crystal 40L 0.75 lbs
Crystal 120L 0.5 lbs
Black malt 1 oz

All whole hops
Simcoe(13% aa) 1 oz 60 min
Amarillo(9.3% aa) 1 oz 30 min
Cascade (7% aa) 1 oz 5 min
Colombus 1 oz FO

Mash 155 for 60 min
Collect 7 gallons
Boil 90 min

American Ale yeast

Dry hop # 1 (3 days)
Simcoe 0.25 oz dry hops
Amarillo 0.25 oz dry hops
Cascade 0.25 oz dry hops

Dry hop # 2 (3 days)
Simcoe 0.25 oz dry hops
Amarillo 0.25 oz dry hops
Cascade 0.25 oz dry hops

Dry hop # 3 (3 days)
Simcoe 0.25 oz dry hops
Amarillo 0.25 oz dry hops
Cascade 0.25 oz dry hops


You mentioned using some colombus at FO and in the dry hop in one of your posting. Have you stuck with that? Thanks

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Hey Jason, on this last iteration I did 1 oz Simcoe at FO this was better than Columbus in my opinion. Like mentioned by others, this malt bill can stand up to almost any hop assault
All looks good
I mashed at 152- that seems a better range for this crystal-heavy beer.

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Old 06-22-2011, 04:05 PM   #46
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So does that 1 oz of black malt just deepen the red color a bit w/o adding any dark/roast flavor? Kind of like only using 2-3 ozs roasted barley?

I'm always looking for ways to tweek colors a bit Would 1 oz de-bittered black do the same thing?

This looks like a nice, "sturdy" base grain bill to try out different hop recipes - I like a malty backbone along w/ the hop flavors.

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the black is for color.

i often times do an ounce of both Simcoe and Cascade at flameout. cant go wrong there.

as for the columbus, when i followed Tim's hop bill that time, i'd say that it initially didnt stand up to the other versions, but a few months later i thought it aged better than any other version. the columbus just added a little something that, over time, was really awesome.

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I am honored that this thread has a life as great as this beer. Dustbow, as jman said, the black is there for color. I think it also does add a very subtle roastiness to the beer that is only noticed when you brew without the dark malt.I have brewed without, and it is too "caramel-ly" for me. The black malt just barely covers a bit of the crystal with its roasty bite that I think it may be the most important nuance of this beer.

I would not use roast barley, as I think the black patent has the right sharpness to balance the malt bill. But, if you try it, please tell us what it does. Homebrew is all about playing with recipes anyway.

Finally, my latest batch was consumed in a violent beer massacre during a fishing trip. 5 gallons, nine guys. 2 hours. Yikes, that was supposed to last 2 days.

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Going to be trying this one out this weekend. Couldn't get any amarillo though, so I went with chinook as it's done will in IPAs for me and is about the same AA as the amarillos I've used in the past...

Any big issue with that change maybe?

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Going to be trying this one out this weekend. Couldn't get any amarillo though, so I went with chinook as it's done will in IPAs for me and is about the same AA as the amarillos I've used in the past...

Any big issue with that change maybe?
I think it will be great! Another variation is always good in my book.

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