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Old 03-16-2011, 05:34 AM   #81
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Could someone convert this to a partial mash for me?? I am hoping to brew this as my second ever brew. I have helped my friend brew 8-10 batches, but this will be the second one I do on my own. I plan on doing my first one this weekend.

I planned on using 2 1098 British Ale wyeast activators instead of the 1056 and starter. I don't feel comfortable doing the starter yet. Palmer says for a O.G. of 1.080 I should have 225-285 billion cells. I thought the activators are 100 billion per packet. Will I be ok being a little shy of Palmers 225-285 mark? I feel 3 packets would be to much?

I also plan on using East Kent Goldings instead of the Amarillo Gold.

Any thoughts on the changes??? It is what I will have in stock.

Thanks a bunch! I am excited to try this out!!!!

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Old 03-16-2011, 06:46 AM   #82
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hopplease:
A noble hop like EKG will definitely not hold up to the profile of this beer. If you can use any of the "C" hops like Centennial, Cascade or Columbus (or even Simcoe) for the replacement then do so. EKG is the last hop I would use for this. Got anything else on hand??

Partial Mash: as converted using Beersmith.

Heavenly Scourge partial mash
Imperial Black IPA


Type: Partial Mash
Boil Size: 6.92 gal
Boil Time: 60 min


Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
8 lbs 6.5 oz Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 62.97 %
3 lbs 1.5 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 23.17 %
14.8 oz Carafa III (525.0 SRM) Grain 6.93 %
14.8 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 6.93 %
3.00 oz Magnum [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 77.9 IBU
2.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (Dry Hop 5 days) Hops -
2.00 oz Centennial (ReadHouse) [8.80 %] (Dry Hop 5 days) Hops -
2.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (1 min) Hops 1.4 IBU
0.50 oz Centennial (ReadHouse) [8.80 %] (0 min) Hops -
1.10 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [Starter 1000 ml] Yeast-Ale


Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.081 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.019 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 8.02 %
Bitterness: 112.2 IBU
Calories: 373 cal/pint
Est Color: 37.9 SRM


Mash
60 min mash at 154.0 F


Notes

Indianapolis Water Additions:
Cut mash with 50% Distilled water...
CaCL2: 4/5 tspn (3 grams)
CaSO4: 3/4 tspn (3 grams)

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Old 03-16-2011, 12:32 PM   #83
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You are going to use different yeast, and a totally different hop so the beer will not be as intended at all. The yeast will have less of an effect than the hops.. which as above would be the last I would use.

Try to use any of the C hops.. even Cascade.

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Old 03-16-2011, 01:46 PM   #84
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I planned on using 2 1098 British Ale wyeast activators instead of the 1056 and starter. I don't feel comfortable doing the starter yet. Palmer says for a O.G. of 1.080 I should have 225-285 billion cells. I thought the activators are 100 billion per packet. Will I be ok being a little shy of Palmers 225-285 mark? I feel 3 packets would be to much?

I also plan on using East Kent Goldings instead of the Amarillo Gold.

Any thoughts on the changes??? It is what I will have in stock.

Thanks a bunch! I am excited to try this out!!!!

I agree with using the "C" hops if you can. As far as your yeast goes I think 200 billion cells will get it going. It's a little under but not by that much.

Here is a calculator I use for pitching rates:

http://www.mrmalty.com/pitching.php

The article has a lot of good info and the calculator is linked at the end. I would also hook up a blow off tube. As I recall this one was super active for me.
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:48 PM   #85
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Thanks brrman for that conversion.

I put in an order from a group buy for pretty much every "C" hop. Hopefully, I will have them by the time I brew this.

How do I obtain the "earthy" aroma from the EKG? Would dry hopping with the EKG help with that? Or is there other factors I am not seeing that would overpower any attempt from obtaining that aroma?

Do you think I should take my yeast and EKG's and use them for something else all together and make this BIPA brew my 3rd brew with exactly what the recipe calls for?

JLW that link is very informative. Thanks!

Thanks everyone for the input.

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Old 03-21-2011, 09:53 PM   #86
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How do I obtain the "earthy" aroma from the EKG?
You do not want the earthy aroma from EKG in this beer.

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Do you think I should take my yeast and EKG's and use them for something else all together
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brman. what is the efficiency on your system? I am trying to run the numbers from your recipe. Your note on page one says 1.180 at the top, but lists an OG of 1.080 later in the recipe. 1.080 sounds about right. It looks like with that volume of grain, an efficiency of around 68% should get you 1.080.

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winvarin: yeah I made a typo in the header section of the recipe and the website won't let me edit that section... you'll notice I made an edit just below it.

It is 1.080 OG. MY eff was about 70% when I wrote the recipe - my electric system was new and I was still getting the kinks out. I have since gotten my efficiency up to 78% so I have pulled back on the grains just a tad.

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Thanks. That's what I needed. Now to tinker with my high alkaline water. But that's a whole different story for a different thread.

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Just brewed this up tonight!!

I mashed at 153F. I'll post my OG after I wrack to the fermenter tomorrow morning. I did a partigyle brew and have another five gallons of wort in the fridge that I'll brew a dark mild with.

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