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Old 06-14-2012, 01:16 PM   #241
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I'm actually starting to think WLP007 is a little too clean. Maybe the extra 'something' in the grain bill we're looking for are a little more esters. I'm not a ringwood fan, but it might be time for me to give it a try for this beer
You might be onto something. I detected a slight peppery taste drinking DF 90. Perhaps T-58 would be closer. Think I'll give the T-58 a try next time.
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Old 06-14-2012, 02:26 PM   #242
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T-58 is belgian. I'm about 99.9% sure this beer is fermented with an english strain.

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Old 06-14-2012, 03:03 PM   #243
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T-58 is belgian. I'm about 99.9% sure this beer is fermented with an english strain.
Can you recommend another strain that delivers a slightly peppery taste? Don't think Ringwood would deliver here.
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:21 PM   #244
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Trial and error is fine but would rather have a candle than stub my toe in the darkness. This might be helpful from our good supplier Wyeast.

"Commercial Examples: Dogfish Head 90-minute IPA, Rogue I2PA, Stone Ruination IPA, Three Floyd's Dreadnaught, Russian River Pliny the Elder, Moylan's Moylander Double IPA. Stock ales include examples such as Stone Arrogant Bastard and Mendocino Eye of the Hawk.

Wyeast Strains:
1056 - American Ale™
1084 - Irish Ale™
1272 - American Ale II™
1332 - Northwest Ale™
1728 - Scottish Ale™
1450 - Denny's Favorite 50
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That's just generic info.

Stone without a doubt uses WLP007 (1099)
Russian River uses 1056
Three Floyd's uses an unknown English strain.

All Wyeast is saying there is: These are some good commercial examples of an Imperial IPA. Here are some yeast stains that will make a good IIPA.

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I don't get any sort of "peppery" taste from 90 minute. That is what makes cloning so difficult, everyone's palate is different and may perceive something diffrently then the next person. I really enjoyed the beer with wlp007 so I will probably use the jar I washed from the last batch.

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Ya, WLP007 is really close. I'm considering just using it at around 68* rather than 64* for a little more esters.

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I don't get any sort of "peppery" taste from 90 minute. That is what makes cloning so difficult, everyone's palate is different and may perceive something diffrently then the next person. I really enjoyed the beer with wlp007 so I will probably use the jar I washed from the last batch.
Suggest tasting/sipping like wine before guzzling. I wasn't the only taster detecting the slight peppery taste.
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Old 06-20-2012, 04:06 AM   #250
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Wow! Thanks for this recipe and all the advice given in the comments, folks. I brewed it on the day of the May eclipse, so I named it Summer Eclipse Imperial IPA. I followed the recipe from the original post for the most part, only increasing the base malts and TF malts for my gear, cooler mash tun. I left the hop schedule the same.

I kegged it last weekend and tonight I just did a side-by-side comparison with my last bottle of DFH 90-minute imperial IPA. It is spot on taste-wise. Mine is cloudier because I don't filter but the color is nearly identical as far as I can discern. Mine came out at 8% ABV as opposed to DFH's 9% but I'm thrilled with it. It's the first clone I've ever attempted. Definitely a keeper.

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