Multiple - Dogfish Head 60 Minute Clone (AG) & Extract - Page 38

**Yooper** · 09-08-2009, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by OLB

Yooper - 2 questions. Is there any difference or advantage in using whole leaf hops for this recipe? I saw in an earlier post that you sometimes dry hop by throwing the hops into your primary bucket at the end of fermentation instead of racking to secondary. Do you recommend this, and if so, leaf or pellet? Thanks again for the great recipe.

I like whole leaf hops, and would use them. Once the hops crisis hit, I was glad to get any of my favorite hops in any form, so I learned to love all forms! If you want to use whole hops, that's fine- but you may want to increase them by about 10%. Pelletized hops are a bit "stronger" in my opinion.

I don't often use a secondary any more, so I do throw the hops right in the primary after about 2 weeks. I like to dry hop about a week before kegging. I've done it with both whole leaf and pellets. Some people recommend bags, and I've done it with bags or loose, and had good results with both. In a bucket, it's a bit easier to use bags (so you don't have to try to get them in a carboy and of course back out). If you do use bags, make sure to put the hops in there very loosely, so that the hops make contact with the beer. If you have more hops that won't quite fit, you can use another bag, or a stainless steel tea strainer ball. Make sure you sanitized the bags or the strainer, of course.

OLB · 09-08-2009, 03:35 AM

Thanks Lorena!!

jcarson83 · 09-16-2009, 12:40 PM

Thanks Yooper! This turned out to be one of my best beers and will probably turn into the house brew. Not overly bitter and lots of good hop flavors and aromas. I think the simple grain bill really does a lot for the beer.

**Yooper** · 09-16-2009, 01:05 PM

I'm glad you guys like it as much as I do. I just dryhopped my last batch and I'll be kegging it this week. I'm going to take some to the Michigan Brewday next weekend.

**bmckee56** · 09-17-2009, 01:42 PM

The grain bill in the original post is 13.34 pounds. I only have a 5 gallon igloo cooler (MLT). With the amount of water stated for the mash-in, am I running into problems with overflow if I do not use the 7.5 gallon cooler (MLT)?

Also, I could not obtain Warrior hops, so I am going to use Nugget and I will have to increase the amount due to slightly lower A.A. Does anyone see a dramatic difference in final flavor profile using this hop substitution.

I am planning to brew this evening, so any input will be appreciated.

Salute!

**Yooper** · 09-17-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bmckee56

The grain bill in the original post is 13.34 pounds. I only have a 5 gallon igloo cooler (MLT). With the amount of water stated for the mash-in, am I running into problems with overflow if I do not use the 7.5 gallon cooler (MLT)?

Also, I could not obtain Warrior hops, so I am going to use Nugget and I will have to increase the amount due to slightly lower A.A. Does anyone see a dramatic difference in final flavor profile using this hop substitution.

I am planning to brew this evening, so any input will be appreciated.

Salute!

Yeah, I don't think it'll fit in a 5 gallon MLT. I use a 10 gallon, and can NOT mash a 10 gallon batch in it.

Nugget should be fine- you won't notice it since it's bittering hops and I think a pretty "neutral" hop anyway.

**bmckee56** · 09-18-2009, 04:56 PM

Well I went ahead and brewed last evening with the following ingredients:

12lb - Muntons Maris Otter 2 Row Malt (3.0)
2 lb - American Briess 2 Row Malt (1.5)
.40 lb - Crystal 40L

75 minute mash using 3.88 gal of 150 degree water (BeerSmith recommended this amount and temperature), but I used 156 degree water.

1 oz Nugget (13.7% A.A.) for 60 minutes
1 oz Amarillo (7.5% A.A.) for 30 minutes
.50 oz Simcoe (12.0% A.A.) for 15 minutes
.50 oz Cascade (4.0% A.A.) for 15 minutes

My preboil of 6.25 gallons of wort was 1.062 and my final was 1.072 for a 5.25 gallon batch into the primary. I intend to dry hop using Simcoe (.50 oz) and Amarillo (1 oz) and possibly some cascade (.50 oz) for 3 days.

I had to use my 5 gallon igloo cooler/MLT so I scaled back the grain bill from 13 lbs to 12 lbs and I am hoping this doesn't detract from all the great reviews I have read on this thread.

I used the Muntons on a recomendation from my LHBS person and I am hoping I didn't make a mistake.

So any comments on my ingredients and method?

Salute!

johnnyc · 09-20-2009, 08:47 PM

D'oh! I'm doing the extract version and made the first big mistake in a while. I finished steeping and was bringing the wort to a boil as I stirred in my extract. I buy it in bulk and have a big container of it. I noticed it was getting low but didn't think anything about it...WRONG! I only scrapped 5.5 lbs out and I needed about 8. Thankfully my LHBS is just a couple miles away and open til 6 on Sunday. So other than adding 1/2 to my brew day I'm back on track.

**Yooper** · 09-21-2009, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bmckee56

Well I went ahead and brewed last evening with the following ingredients:

12lb - Muntons Maris Otter 2 Row Malt (3.0)
2 lb - American Briess 2 Row Malt (1.5)
.40 lb - Crystal 40L

75 minute mash using 3.88 gal of 150 degree water (BeerSmith recommended this amount and temperature), but I used 156 degree water.

1 oz Nugget (13.7% A.A.) for 60 minutes
1 oz Amarillo (7.5% A.A.) for 30 minutes
.50 oz Simcoe (12.0% A.A.) for 15 minutes
.50 oz Cascade (4.0% A.A.) for 15 minutes

My preboil of 6.25 gallons of wort was 1.062 and my final was 1.072 for a 5.25 gallon batch into the primary. I intend to dry hop using Simcoe (.50 oz) and Amarillo (1 oz) and possibly some cascade (.50 oz) for 3 days.

I had to use my 5 gallon igloo cooler/MLT so I scaled back the grain bill from 13 lbs to 12 lbs and I am hoping this doesn't detract from all the great reviews I have read on this thread.

I used the Muntons on a recomendation from my LHBS person and I am hoping I didn't make a mistake.

So any comments on my ingredients and method?

Salute!

You'll have a maltier backbone, but that should be a nice change. When I made it with maris otter and crystal, I thought it was a bit too sweet for my taste, but I'm a total hophead!

GroovePuppy · 09-24-2009, 09:17 PM

Brewed a Partial Mash batch last weekend. Used 12lbs of grain plus 1.75lbs of DME. Substutited home toasted 2-row for the Amber and Columbus for the Warrior. I added the Columbus faster at first then slowed down but I'm interested in how I might estimate the IBU. BeerSmith isn't set up for continuous addition.

Pitched US-05 and by now it's almost finished bubbling. Gravity reading, secondary and dry-hopping at the weekend. Looking forward to this after a certain person at HBT sent me a sample of theirs.