FlyingHorse, what method did you use to cultivate? I haven't done this yet and I'm trying to educate myself before jumping. Similar to joety? I'd rather not have to use the Chris Colby Method,Brew Your Own: The How-To Homebrew Beer Magazine - Story Index - Yeast - Yeast Culturing from Bottles: Techniques, if something easier works. If joetys method works and produces a quality beer I'm up for that. I know this hobby lends itself to being thorough but human nature always longs for the shortcut.
If you want to truly nail it, just propogate the yeast from a couple bottles of the real thing. That's what I did and I am very happy with the results.
Yeah I agree with this... I have a fairly similar clone recipe to this.. Could never get it spot on though until I actually took the yeast from a bells bottle. Not sure what strain they use but if it is one of the ones available to homebrewers it definitely has developed some house characteristics...
FlyingHorse, what method did you use to cultivate? I haven't done this yet and I'm trying to educate myself before jumping. Similar to joety?
Pretty much what joety did...I don't even have a stirplate. Just boiled and cooled a pint of 1.040 wort, and tosse it in a mason jar with the dregs of 4 bottles of Two hearted. gave it a shake every so often. After 24 hours there was a noticeable wisp of yeast in the jar; stepped it up to a quart, then 24 hours later to 2 quarts.
Still didn't look like as much yeast as I'd get from a similar starter on a WL or Wyeast pack, but it did the trick...took my 1.064 beer to 1.011 in about 5 days.
I think I have everything to do this except not sure if I have enough Vienna. Also, I have some Centennial, but probably not enough. Got lots of Cascade, though.
Do you think I should cut back the recipe for the Vienna, or just brew with as much as I have? (Maybe 1/2 required I think).
Also, what about Cascade hops? I might have 1/5 oz oz Centennial. Rest would be Cascade.
I'd like to brew tonight. Only day I can brew all week.
From what I've read, the yeast in Bell's Two-Hearted (and Brown Ale, and Amber Ale, etc.) is very similar to Wyeast 1272 American Ale II / WLP051 California V, sourced originally from Anchor Liberty. (Whether or not Bell's started out with 1272 or WLP051, I don't know.)
I haven't used the Wyeast/White Labs version that I can recall, but the Bell's version that Larry gave me took right off and immediately went to town on my Amarillo IPA. It's not done yet, but I expect good things.
Shoot. I forgot that one reason I was putting this one off for brewing today is that I just started the yeast harvest last night. I guess I'll be waiting until next week to do this one.
depends at what brewhouse efficiency you are at... I calculated mine to 70%
70% BHE
1.066SG 5.8SRM
56.4 IBU
Mash at 151-152
11# 2 row pale us
2.5# Vienna
.5# Cara Pils
.5 Crystal 20L
Pellet hops used.
Centennial 8AA 60 Min 1 oz
Centennial 8AA 15 Min 1oz
Centennial 8AA 5 Min 1oz
Centennial 8AA 1 Min 1oz
Centennial 8AA Dryhop .5oz 5 days after primary fermentation
I was trolling the other 2hearted threads, and got some feedback on converting an AG to min-mash in another thread I started. This is where I landed, any feedback is appreciated:
Ingredients:
7.5 lbs Extra Pale LME
2 lbs Vienna Malt
1/2 lb Crystal Malt (20L)
Hop Schedule:
1.5 oz centennial 60 min
0.5 oz centennial 30 min
0.75 oz cascade 10 min
0.25 oz cascade at flameout
dry hop .75 oz centennial and 1.00 oz cascade for 9 days.
WLP051 (California V Ale).