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Old 04-17-2014, 10:33 PM   #211
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I brewed a kit version of this recently - color, mouthfeel, head, and grain/extract bill seemed right on, but hops were waaaay off. I did a side-by-side last night, and def recommend going with the Chinook recommended in OP.
OK thanks for your reply.
This in on my long list of "to brew" beers so maybe I'll find a good deal on Chinook before I eventually get around to brewing it.
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Old 05-10-2014, 07:46 PM   #212
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Brewed this with us-05 and did the middle hop addition at 10 minutes instead of 45, plus dry hopped.

After a month in the bottle, my AB drinking friends were very skeptical and all quite impressed at how close it was to the real Stone version.

Great recipe!

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Old 06-01-2014, 08:48 PM   #213
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I'm going to give this one a run soon. I've listened to all 4 BN podcasts and feel that going with the "rebrew" version is my best bet. Interesting to watch Tasty and Jamil disagree on the recipe. Tasty seems to favor the Crystal 150 while Jamil thinks all Special B is the answer. I have no idea who is right, but I think I'm going to go with about 2/3 Special B and 1/3 C150 just to hedge my bets. (For Crystal 150 I'm going to use Simpsons Extra Dark (160L) Which is the closest that Northern Brewer seems to have. This only gives me an SRM of 18 which might be a little light. Looks like 22 would be closer.

An suggestions before I commit?

PS: I'm going to do it as a BIAB with a dunk sparge.
PSS: If anybody knows how to enter a dunk sparge into Beersmith let me know!

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Recipe: Arrogant Bastard Clone - BN Rebrew Modified
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain (BIAB)

Recipe Specifications

Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Boil Size: 8.28 gal
Estimated OG: 1.069 SG
Estimated Color: 18.9 SRM
Estimated IBU: 72.9 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:

Code:
Amt                   Name                                     Type          #        %/IBU         
13 lbs                Brewers Malt 2-Row (Briess) (1.8 SRM)    Grain         1        89.7 %        
1 lbs                 Special B Malt (180.0 SRM)               Grain         2        6.9 %         
8.0 oz                Crystal, Extra Dark (Simpsons) (160.0 SR Grain         3        3.4 %         
1.00 oz               Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min        Hop           4        32.6 IBUs     
0.85 oz               Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 45.0 min        Hop           5        25.4 IBUs     
0.85 oz               Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min        Hop           6        13.7 IBUs     
1.00 tsp              Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 mins)              Fining        7        -             
0.85 oz               Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 1.0 min         Hop           8        1.2 IBUs      
1.0 pkg               British Ale (White Labs #WLP005) [35.49  Yeast         9        -
Mash Schedule: BIAB, Medium Body - Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 14 lbs 8.0 oz
Code:
Name              Description                             Step Temperat Step Time     
Saccharification  Add 7.84 gal of water at 155.8 F        148.0 F       60 min        
Dunk Sparge       Error: Infusion temperature above boili 168.0 F       10 min
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Old 06-03-2014, 02:06 PM   #214
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Aplikowski - In another podcast, Jeff Bagby (of Pizza Port fame) stated C150 as the right stuff for A.B. Jeff worked at Stone many years ago.

If you don't mind, please post your Beersmith BSMX file. You should be able to attach it here.

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Old 06-04-2014, 01:23 AM   #215
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Well, just when I had mustered the conviction to use all special B! Thanks for the tip ultravista. I've downloaded the episode and will listen to it over the next couple days. Maybe I'll just pick up a couple pounds of both Special B and C150 so I can put off the decision for a few more days.

I hope I can find C150. I typically pick up my grains locally here at Northern Brewer. They don't have C150 on their website.

I've attached the file. Hope it helps. Let me know if you have any suggestions!

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Old 06-04-2014, 02:53 AM   #216
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From my post 593:
Interesting, I just listened to the BN session "The Session 09-19-11 Jeff Bagby" where Jeff, who worked at Stone AND brewed A.B., commented that A.B. does not include Special B and it was a dose of highly kilned crystal malt. When pressed by Tasty (or someone else), Jeff mentioned C150.

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Old 06-04-2014, 04:23 AM   #217
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I heard the same thing. He was also clear that it had been a while since he worked at Stone. He even commented that when Stone switched brewing systems he knew they had to adjust recipes for the new system. This is certainly a strong clue, but it still far from conclusive. For anyone that wants to listen, it's just after the 2:30 mark on the podcast.

Now, to go with this clue or to trust Jamil's pallet?



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Old 06-04-2014, 05:13 AM   #218
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I tried both, Special B and C150 and could not taste much difference. The C150 batch was a Double Bastard that turned out not quite hoppy enough.

For what it's worth, AHS' A.B. recipe is C120.

Either way, it will turn out fantastic.

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Old 06-04-2014, 10:30 PM   #219
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I was thinking the same thing. I'm not as interested in a blind taste test against the real thing. I just want it close and to taste great.

I just picked up a sack of 2-row and a couple pounds of both special B and Simpsons extra dark. Eventually I'll make it through both versions.


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