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Conan · 10-16-2011, 03:42 PM

Mashing this now! Got myself confused with the 2 chocolate malts, but luckily was able to crush up what I needed and add to the mash. I'm excited about this beer- first AG stout. In mash it just looks like a fantastic stout. Kyle

**JonM** · 10-17-2011, 11:23 PM

Awesome! This stuff is great. My batch has been in the bottles for about two months now and it is one of my new favorites. This won't last long. Thanks Yoop!

Olddog · 10-19-2011, 09:28 AM

I am wanting to make this soon but I have a question regarding the black barley, is it the same as black patent malt? That's what my LHBS has but they say use it sparingly less it impart a charred flavor.

I'm thinking it probably isn't the same so now the question is, how would you substitute for it?

**sudsmcgee** · 10-19-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Olddog

I am wanting to make this soon but I have a question regarding the black barley, is it the same as black patent malt? That's what my LHBS has but they say use it sparingly less it impart a charred flavor.

I'm thinking it probably isn't the same so now the question is, how would you substitute for it?

I had the same problem when I went to my LHBS. They ended up having roasted barley that was 500 SRM so I used that instead. The beer is delicious!

***Yooper*** · 10-19-2011, 12:57 PM

They are not interchangeable, although the names are very close!

Briess' Black Barley: http://www.brewmasterswarehouse.com/product/0102215/briess-black-barley

If your LHBS doesn't carry black barley, you could use roasted barley instead, with a tiny bit of black patent for the black color. (like 1 ounce of the patent), or maybe this: http://www.brewmasterswarehouse.com/product/0101463/francobelges-kiln-coffee I haven't tried the coffee malt, though!

Olddog · 10-19-2011, 04:25 PM

Thanks Yooper!

Going to buy the stuff today. I'm hoping my LHBS's website is wrong and they actually have the black barley in the store.

Olddog · 10-21-2011, 07:25 PM

Mine's in the mash tun now. It smells awesome!

By the way, I was able to get the black barley but was unable to get the Wyeast 1335 so I went with WLP005 British Ale. Unfortunately I wouldn't know the difference between the two since this is the first time I'm brewing this.

boostsr20 · 10-22-2011, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Yooper

They are not interchangeable, although the names are very close!

Briess' Black Barley: http://www.brewmasterswarehouse.com/product/0102215/briess-black-barley

If your LHBS doesn't carry black barley, you could use roasted barley instead, with a tiny bit of black patent for the black color. (like 1 ounce of the patent), or maybe this: http://www.brewmasterswarehouse.com/product/0101463/francobelges-kiln-coffee I haven't tried the coffee malt, though!

The kiln coffee malt is very nice. I use about 4% in a porter I do and it really does give a subtle roast. Most LHBS don't carry the 300L roast barley anymore, typically its just the 500+. At least thats what I've found around here.

heyjaffy · 10-23-2011, 04:51 PM

Brewed up a batch of this this morning - my second stout ever and first one all grain. Tasted darn good going into the carboy, can't wait to taste it again in a few weeks.

Conan · 10-26-2011, 09:42 PM

Transferring to keg now, and the hydro sample is fantastic- even at 68 degrees! Very smooth, just some roast, and full-bodied. OG was 1.055, FG at 1.014 for a BeerSmith ABV of 5.35%. Very pleased with this so far, at only 10 days since brewing. Kyle