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Old 12-16-2011, 07:01 PM   #201
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C-60 tastes like caramel, that's the only way I can describe it. Lighter crystal is sweeter, darker crystal is less sweet and more burnt tasting. I think this beer would turn out OK with c-40 or c-80, but it definitely wouldn't be the same. If your LHBS doesn't know this stuff, it might be time to start ordering stuff online.
Is Caramel 60 different than Crystal 60?..
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Old 12-16-2011, 07:57 PM   #202
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Is Caramel 60 different than Crystal 60?..
A post not long ago described them as sifferent malting/crystallization procedures but as far as I know the malsters usually interchange the names between the two without rwally listing amy sidferwnces. But for our purposes they should.be the. Same for us.

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Old 12-16-2011, 09:46 PM   #203
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:20 PM   #204
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Wow I can't believe I've never brewed Orfy's or your version of his Mild recipe. Thanks very much for posting, and thanks for the extra info about 2-row+victory vs marris otter, that is very helpful.

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Old 12-20-2011, 04:14 PM   #205
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Wow I can't believe I've never brewed Orfy's or your version of his Mild recipe. Thanks very much for posting, and thanks for the extra info about 2-row+victory vs marris otter, that is very helpful.
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Here is my posting of Orfy's Mild Mannered Ale that took 1st place, category 11 in the 2011 HBT homebrew competition, and was a part of the "Orfy's mild mini-comp".

5 lb 8 oz Maris Otter (Crisp, UK)
1 lb 8 oz Crystal 60L (Crisp, UK)
6 oz Chocolate malt (Crisp, UK)

1 oz UK Fuggle 4.30% at 45 minutes
1 oz UK Fuggle 4.30% at 15 minutes

Brewhouse efficiency for this recipe is set to 75%

Mash at 158 degrees for 60 minutes at 1.25:1 ratio, mashout with 1 gallon of boiling water and Vorlauf till first runnings are clear. Double batch sparge with 170 degree water to get to pre-boil volume.

Pitch yeast at the starting fermentation temp of 65 degrees and ramp up to 68 degrees after 3 days at initial fermentation temp.

After 10 days of primary fermentation rack to a keg or bottling bucket and carb to 1.8 volumes.

A few notes about this beer:

If you have never tried a Northern English Mild, you are missing out on a great full flavored session beer that is both an inexpensive beer to brew and it is a quick beer to go from grain to glass, it can be ready to drink in a couple weeks if you push it.

I always have a great time brewing this beer, if I don't have Maris Otter, I use 4.5 lbs of 2-row and a pound of victory malt to approximate the MO, don't have victory? Just toast a pound of your 2-row at 350 degrees for 16 minutes and let it sit in a bag for a week prior to brewing. It also lends itself well to other English hops, and if Notty is not your thing, use S-04 or WLP002.

As requested be included in the recipe, the yeast that was used for my competition beer was a long forgotten packet of Nottingham yeast that had an expiration date of March 2006, it would appear it made a fine beer after all that time!
Going to try this one this weekend
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Going to try this one this weekend
After you try this beer, you are going to want to get brewing another batch because it is going to disappear quickly!

I am going to be brewing this one real soon, probably going to be a double brewday, going to brew my Bitter Brit ordinary bitter at the same time.
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Old 01-18-2012, 10:23 PM   #208
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I did a batch a while back and this stuff came out great. Good session beer thats full of flavor.I'm gonna brew it again soon and I 'm gonna use some Wyeast "Thames Valley" that I have lying around. Looking forward to it.

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Just brewed tonight. Smelled awesome whole time. (all brews do so). But im hoping for a great session beer for more brewing. And if it turns out great i have 6 empty kegs that need filling so i cam brew a big batch if i want. Thanks for the recipe. Hope it turns out great like everyone eho brewed it here

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As long as you keep your temps in check you should have a nice full flavored session ale.

I enjoy drinking this one on the weekends when working around the house, or anytime I need to still function after having a couple beers.

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