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Old 04-26-2009, 03:54 PM   #31
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Batch Size: 10.00 gal
Boil Size: 12.13 gal
Estimated OG: 1.046 SG
Estimated Color: 6.8 SRM
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Estimated IBU: 37.4 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.0 %
Boil Time: 70 Minutes
Total Grain Weight: 17lbs
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15.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)
1.00 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM)
1.00 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM)
2.00 oz Pearle [6.30%] (70 min)
2.00 oz Cascade [7.00%] (10 min)
1.00 oz Cascade [7.00%] (5 min)
American Yeast (I used Wyeast #1056)
Mash at 154 degrees (F) for 65 minutes. Batch Sparge at 170 degrees for a pre boil volume of 12 gallons.

This looks great. I'd really like to brew it as my first partial mash for a 5G batch. Can someone with some software or knowledge help convert the recipe?
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Old 04-29-2009, 04:37 AM   #32
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Hey there, long time lurker, new to posting!

Just wondering, I gave this a shot a few days ago, probably my third AG. Just wondering if you can help me out here?

I brewed up a 5 gallon batch, I used

8.8 pounds of the light, instead of the 7.5 the crystal and cara I used the same.
.5 pounds each.

I tried to hit 5.5 gallons post boil volume (to account for deadspace / trub in the brew pot) but ended up with probably 6 - 6.2 gallons in the pot. I couldnt get the brew to the boil like I expected it to, and as such did not evap as much as I thought. A few questions, my OG was only 1.041... is this a problem? also, I mashed at exactly the medium body range but when I went to mash out, only raised it to a full body mash temp, where it sat 10 minutes.... doh!

whats your thoughts? P.S, sample tasted awesome, a really nice bitter hit to the lips, then mellows out (this was pure wort) and its bubbling away really nice with safale us-05, and smells awesome. Cannot wait to try none the less!

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...whats your thoughts? P.S, sample tasted awesome, a really nice bitter hit to the lips, then mellows out (this was pure wort) and its bubbling away really nice with safale us-05, and smells awesome. Cannot wait to try none the less!
I think it will turn out great.

The lower gravity just means you can drink more. With a lighter OG, it may need to sit a bit longer for the higher IBU's to mellow some, but this is a hoppy beer by design.

The step mash temp shouldn't be a concern. Your conversion was complete.

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Old 04-29-2009, 04:23 PM   #34
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Great. Thanks for the vote of confidence. this is a bit off topic, but did i go horribly bad on my efficiency, considering the higher og you got with less malt? Would like to work this out then give this recipe another crack.

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Old 05-30-2009, 06:18 PM   #35
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Made this on May 3rd. No perle at LHBS so I hopped like:

.75 11.1% Chinook 60
1.0 4.8% Cascade 15
.5 4.8% Cascade 10
.5 4.8% Cascade 5

3 weeks in primary, straigth to bottle. Pipeline is low so I tried one at 6 days in bottle...outstanding.

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Ok, I'd like to do this, but I only have Cascade and Centennial hops on hand. Do you think they would go well with this recipe? I was thinking about doing a 1/2 batch. I have 1.5 oz Centennial and most of a pound of Cascade. LHBS is too far away to think about going there and brewing tonight.

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Ok, I'd like to do this, but I only have Cascade and Centennial hops on hand. Do you think they would go well with this recipe? I was thinking about doing a 1/2 batch. I have 1.5 oz Centennial and most of a pound of Cascade. LHBS is too far away to think about going there and brewing tonight.
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I attempted to convert this to Extract and scale down to a 5.5 final volume with a 3 gallon boil and this is what Beersmith came up with (amounts adjusted slightly for more sane values):

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Amount Item Type % or IBU
7.00 lb Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 8.89 %
4.00 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 35.56 %
0.25 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 2.22 %
1.75 oz Pearle [6.30 %] (70 min) Hops 23.9 IBU
1.75 oz Cascade [7.00 %] (10 min) Hops 9.3 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [7.00 %] (5 min) Hops 2.9 IBU
1 Pkgs American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) Yeast-Ale


The profile looked pretty spot-on to what BierMuncher posted for the AG recipe, except the color was very dark (something like 9.7SRM) of course, extract being dark like that. I tried tinkering with it and subbing in some Extra Pale LME from Austin Home Brew to tone the color down and came up with this (exactly the same except subbing 6 pounds of the Pale for Extra Pale). All the specs are pretty spot on, but what will it do to the taste? Austin Homebrew's "Extra Pale LME" is the Briess Pilsen malt.

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Amount Item Type % or IBU
6.00 lb Extra Pale Liquid Malt Extract (3.0 SRM) Extract 53.33 %
1.00 lb Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 8.89 %
4.00 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 35.56 %
0.25 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 2.22 %
1.75 oz Pearle [6.30 %] (70 min) Hops 23.9 IBU
1.75 oz Cascade [7.00 %] (10 min) Hops 9.3 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [7.00 %] (5 min) Hops 2.9 IBU
1 Pkgs American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) Yeast-Ale

Anyone have any thoughts?
Probably a dumb noob question but why is there so much more (8 times more) Cara-Pils grain in the extract version than in the AG version ?
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Probably a dumb noob question but why is there so much more (8 times more) Cara-Pils grain in the extract version than in the AG version ?
it's not a dumb noob question..... it is actually being very observant. the carapils is utilized mostly for head retention in ales... I think 4 lbs is a gigantic mistake. For a 5 - 5.5 gallon batch, you want max 1/2 pound carapils and I would also do a minimum 1/2 pound of the caramel 60 to enhance color and flavor... the original 10 gallon recipe states it lacks a malty flavor..... you might add 1 pound of munich or vienna to the extract version to balance it out and give more maltiness... that would give you 2 pounds of grains to steep or mini-mash...If steeping, I would divide the crushed grain into two grain bags to double the exposure to water and osmotic action to the grains... Sierra Nevada is known for its perle bittering hops and cascade-like aroma/flavoring. A good substitute for me as a hop head (but maybe not for you) would be to save your cascades you planned to use in dryhopping, for future flavoring/aroma recipes, and replace it in the pale ale clones with an ounce of columbus (formerly tomahawk, and off-the scale 14.4 AAU's) or any other hop you enjoy sticking your nose into, in the secondary as your dryhop..... yummy!!... It's your beer, make it smell as good as you want... good catch on the 4 pounds of carapils... hope this helps... Beersmith always gives problems when converting recipes due to a wide variety of inherent inputting problems.... cheers!
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This recipe is very good. I made this beer recently and will definitely be making it again.

Thanks for the recipe

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