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Old 01-04-2011, 10:00 PM   #51
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Glacier is probably the closest but it's biterness is bit more firm. The only other hop I've used to bitter this is Target.
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Old 01-10-2011, 09:52 PM   #52
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thanx for the help, i will keep a look out for these hops...
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Old 01-16-2011, 11:06 PM   #53
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I've been wanting to give this a go for a while. I got to it today. I love a good red.

I didn't reduce enough, so have 5.5 gal at 1.053. I am not at all worried about that. I used Notty, and didn't have the Carafa, so I added 1 oz roasted instead of 0.5. But the roasted I had was only 300L I don't know how much difference that will make. If anything it might be a bit more rich. Not a bad thing in my opinion.

It smelled great in the mash. I am really looking forward to tasting this.
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Is Maris Otter an OK substitution for the American 2-row?

Also, if I can't find Palisades hops, is the below substitution from USAHOPS.org correct to use Willamette hops?

From USAhops.org:

Palisade®, YCR 4
Alpha Acids 5.5-9.5%
Beta Acids 6.0-8.0%
Alpha-Beta Ratio 1
Cohumulone (% of alpha acids): 24-29%
Total Oils (Mls. per 100 grams dried hops) 1.4-1.6
Myrcene (as % of total oils) 9-10%
Caryophyllene (as % of total oils) 16-18%
Humulene (as % of total oils) 19-22%
Farnesene (as % of total oils) 0%
Storage (% alpha acids remaining after 6 months storage at 20° C) Good (above average %)
Possible Substitutions: Willamette
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Old 01-17-2011, 02:19 AM   #55
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Palisades is a Tettnanger decent like Willamette probably is. It's higher alpha, like Glacier. Tett or Willamette will probably work reasonably well if you use enough. Magnum would work good if you use the right amount less. Palisade does add to the overall flavor. Nothing really replaces it. It's very good in porters.,
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Made this 5 days ago. Pretty excited about it. It will be different though. I used maris otter for the base. Smells great!!
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Old 01-23-2011, 08:43 PM   #57
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I just brewed up another rendition

17 lb Great Western 2-row
1 Lb Great Western Crystal 75L
1 lb Great Western Crystal 60L
12 oz Great Western Crystal 40L
4 oz Best Carmel Pilsner (out of 40L)
8 oz Best Melanoidin Malt (not sure how it compares to Wyermann)
2 oz Best Aromatic
1 oz Carafa III
1 oz Roasted Barley 550L

44g Palisade and 21g Willamette at 60 min (out of Palisades)
1 oz Sterling and .25 oz Liberty at 20 min (making up for low alpha Sterling and hoping for more spice)
1 oz Willamette at 10 min
1 oz Cascade and .5 oz Columbus Dry hop (upping the aroma a touch)

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Mashed in 35 qts at 153 for 60 minutes (no mashout,) single batch sparged with 24 qts.
Ended up with 11 gallons of 1.060 wort.
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Old 01-25-2011, 02:40 AM   #58
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Made this beer before and it was awesome! Thanks for the recipe!

I was wondering what you all thought about adding .5oz or 1 oz of carapills to add to the body of it? I was thinking about adding flaked oats at first but after reading have become curious of carapills. Thanks all
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Old 01-25-2011, 03:14 AM   #59
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If you want more body mash a little higher. The recipe is already 15% crystal malts. I guess is could be pushed to 20%. 15% seems to be where I like it, but then the only other way I've brewed it was with 12%.
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Alrighty ill give that a shot. Come to think of it I may have just added too much water the first time (I didn't reach 5 gallons) and thinned it out.

Thanks for the help!
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