It rained today so I finally got a day off. I brewed this up. I got nearly 11 gallons of 1.060 wort.
17lb American Two-row (Great Western)
1lb Caramel Munich 80L (Franco Belges)
1lb Crystal Maris Otter - 50-60L (Simpson's)
1lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (Great Western)
8 oz Melanoidin Malt
3 oz Carafa II special
1/2 oz Roasted Barley - 550L
60 mins 2.0oz Palisades pellet 8
20 mins 1oz Saaz leaf 4.5
10 mins 1oz Willamette leaf 4.5
Dry hop 7 days 1oz Cascade pellet 6.0
It defiantly came out more red. I hope the imported crystals add the richness that the judges found missing. I've used the Franco Belges Caramel Munich 120L and it dose add rich malt flavors. I didn't want that dark of crystal in this beer. I hope the 80L tastes as good. My first batch of this used Simpson's medium crystal. All though the crystal Maris Otter is the same SRM it tastes different as grain. By the taste of the wort I think this is the best batch yet.
edit,
I bottled half five days ago (with a tad of T-58) and kegged the other half three days ago. Both are carbed. The bottled ones are better tasting and clearer. I did rack and cold crash that half a few days earlier. The ones off tap have a finer head--more like nitro. Head retention is great on both. Keep in mind I'm a very good bottler and have no experience kegging.
I like the imported crystals. I think Franco Belges is the best there is.
This is the best Amber I have ever tasted.
Edit,
The keg is good now. Took a week longer than the bottles. It's still not as clear. T-58 must help.