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**sloose** · 01-24-2013, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by reibrew

I'm missing a few ingredients but I'm hoping I can sub in some stuff:

my lhbs doesn't stock cara-pils. Can I sub in .75# more two row?

Also, no centennial hops. Can I sub with cascade instead? I also have some few month old EKG kicking around.

S-05 works with this as well, correct?

Thanks!

No carapils or centennial ?! What kind of brew shop Is that ? Tell me where it is so I know never to go there!

Carapils or dextro malt is for body and head retention. 2row has none of those properties. Centennial is pretty crucial IMO to this beers wonderful flavor. I use centennial in about 80% of my brews now. You could use EKG but it will certainly change the flavor ..

S05 works great in this beer, as will any clean fermenting yeast. I use this beer as a starter for my big beers with S05.

Brizzo · 01-25-2013, 03:30 AM

My lhbs doesn't carry Vienna, but will special order it for 16 bucks for a 10 lbbag and 2 week delivery. Crazy

**sloose** · 01-25-2013, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Brizzo

My lhbs doesn't carry Vienna, but will special order it for 16 bucks for a 10 lbbag and 2 week delivery. Crazy

That's an ok price as specialty grains go. I guess I'm spoiled in my area. Craft breweries that are any good are rare, but our homebrew stores are beyond excellent.

BigPicture · 01-25-2013, 04:21 PM

I love this hobby. I love this recipe. I was just thinking how great this is, changing things up, Grain, Hops, Yeast, Time. It really is endless.

The biggest kudos are reserved for you guys. Not only has BierMuncher given us a fantastic starting point, but all you guys have given me suggestions on how to change things up & still end up with a wonderful beer.

Don't be afraid! Experiment!

Now I just have to try more styles! Drink more beer!

AND............... I'm becoming a better brewer. Holy Smokes! Who'd a thought?

cblack85 · 01-27-2013, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by orion7144

The centennial is what makes this what it is.

Was thinking about brewing this with Magnum and Falconers 7 C's, will that overpower the malt bill, or is it worth it to go ahead a get some Centennials and Cascades and follow the original recipe?

daggers_nz · 01-27-2013, 08:32 AM

I just had a bottle of mine tonight, left it in the fridge for 24 hours and the hop taste and aroma is a lot more noticeable than say, a bottle left in the freezer to cool quickly

point of this post - I really enjoyed it, and I will be making this again very soon

**Hammertime1** · 01-27-2013, 07:00 PM

First time poster, longtime lurker.
After not brewing for about 5-6 years, I began the search for a decent recipe and found this site. Needless a lot has changed in that period of time! Of course I HAD to have a fermentation chamber, so built the cheap EBAY temp controller, a stir plate and....
I thought A simple recipe would be the best to get back into the hobby again, and found this one. Made a version of this and it is great! Smooth, no unwanted aftertaste, yummy. This will be in the new rotation.
Kudo to BM.

captainkirk83 · 01-27-2013, 11:54 PM

Bottled this 3 days ago. Already is crystal clear and looks delicious. I'm drooling just thinking about it

**jflongo** · 01-28-2013, 01:35 PM

I'm doing this tomorrow. The only change I'm making is at the 20 min boil, i'm bumping up cascade to 0.5 oz, to add a little more IBU. This will be my FIRST All Grain with my new 5G mash tun.

Bombeque · 01-28-2013, 09:04 PM

Ok so Im brewing this again. But the brew supply shop only had "Centennial type" hops this time. I have a third of an ounce of the real deal left from last time and was thinking of using those as the late addition and using the Centennial type hops for the bittering addition. Anyone brew this using those type hops?