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**ChshreCat** · 02-16-2010, 02:42 AM

Ahh, that would've came out a little less sweet than mine.

**Dog House Brew** · 02-17-2010, 01:48 PM

So did you do a PM again or did you go AG? If you did go AG what was the recipe you used?

**ChshreCat** · 02-17-2010, 02:49 PM

PM. I don't have facilities to do a full boil. I used the exact same recipe.

Wouldn't be too hard to convert the extract to some more 2-row to make it an AG recipe though. No need to adjust the hops since the wort gravity would be about the same.

**Dog House Brew** · 02-17-2010, 08:00 PM

10/4 Sounds like it is a good brew. I like Honey malt

**ChshreCat** · 02-18-2010, 01:24 AM

The honey malt really does nice things in this beer. Goes well with the two hops, I think.

If you can get the pacman yeast, definitely use that. I used it again with this batch and it's chuggin' away. I used starsan in my airlock and the last two days when I checked on it there was a nice tower of foam standing up above the airlock.

152Sumo · 03-03-2010, 05:11 PM

I would like to make this beer, or something similar. The only problem is that I am somewhat of a beginner and would like to do an extract recipe (with steeping grains). Do any of you have a recommendation for an extract recipe that will get me close to this? I tried Mighty Arrow recently and fell in love. Thanks

**ChshreCat** · 03-04-2010, 12:13 AM

Not sure if you could cut this down that far without changing the end product, unless you can find some Vienna malt extract.

If you can steep grains, you can do a partial mash, trust me! Give it a shot and you'll see! The only difference is that you measure your water better and mind the temperature closer. If you wanted to make this one a bit easier, you could convert the pale malt to more LME and that would cut the grain bill down to 4 lbs, making it a little easier to manage thought you'd be stretching the Vienna's enzymatic power a tad bit. If you add the extra LME at the start of the boil, and save the rest for the end as the recipe calls for, it'll help keep your hop utilization the same.

152Sumo · 03-04-2010, 02:41 AM

Thanks. I will probably give it a shot when I get all my gear in order.

**ChshreCat** · 03-14-2010, 05:36 AM

Just finally got to bottle this tonight. I have a little under 2 weeks before I'll be dropping it off for NHC. Hope it carbs in time. I'm ramping the heat up a touch where I'm storing it to try to hurry it along.

pivovar · 03-21-2010, 07:51 PM

I made a half-size batch of this (2.5 gallons). I didn't have any Amarillo hops, so used all Cascades. Also, for my water I used 50% tap 50% RO + 3/4 tsp CaCl2, since my tap water is quite hard with high level of sulfates and most beers end up tasting harshly bitter if I don't use any treatments. With these changes do you think it will be close?