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Old 07-30-2013, 03:12 AM   #561
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Did you adjust the hop additions for different %AAs? I'd also not expect an S-04 fermented beer to be drinkable two weeks after brewing, my experience is that it takes a while for the yeast and hop flavors to come together.

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Old 07-30-2013, 02:51 PM   #562
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Did you adjust the hop additions for different %AAs? I'd also not expect an S-04 fermented beer to be drinkable two weeks after brewing, my experience is that it takes a while for the yeast and hop flavors to come together.
Yes, I adjusted AA% to hit the correct IBU's for the recipe. I don't think it is a hop issue, it is either something went wrong in my process or the LHBS had the wrong grains. The other variable is my thermocouple messed up so my mash temp was a little loose....it was 150ish and within range, but that wouldn't cause flavor problems. I'm thinking I'll let it sit for a couple weeks in the keg and come back to it.

Thanks for the feedback on S-04, I've never brewed with it before and mostly use liquid yeast, but this was impromptu brew session.
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Old 07-30-2013, 02:53 PM   #563
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KingBrianI : I really need to thank you for this recipe. I brewed it and everybody loved it. My boss loved it so much that she said it was one of the best beers she had ever tasted,and she wanted to start selling it at her place.( she is a cafe owner and i work there in the kitchen.) so this will be my first house beer.

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Drinking one and mashing a new batch of this one right now.changed the yeast To wlp 002 just To try some different yeasts.hope this new batch Will be as tasty as the last one was.

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Old 08-17-2013, 06:54 PM   #565
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Mashing this one right now. Used all EKG and changed the yeast to 1968. Otherwise exactly the same as the original. My first time doing a FWH. Will report back when it's in my glass.

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Old 09-02-2013, 03:00 PM   #566
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I have just pulled a pint of this from my keg. It has been in there nearly two weeks. I am a bit disappointed as I can hardly detect any EKG aroma or flavor.
Not sure why. Maybe the hops were older.

Anyway, could I dry hop in the keg with some more EKG? If so how much would you suggest and am I ok to bring the keg back up to room temp before doing this?

Thanks.

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Brewing 10.5 gal of this today with Great Western's version of Otter. I know it won't be the exact same, but on the West Coast, this is the only maltster around. I get it at about $0.86/lb, whereas real Otter costs me $1.20/lb (40% more).

OP, if you can still edit the first post, it would be helpful to spell out that by "UK 2-row" you mean something resembling Otter. I came very close to brewing it with US 2-row instead.

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Below is the recipe, modified for the malts available in the Sacramento area (Great Western base/Baird specialty), using AA values from HopHeaven in Oregon.

Note: Adjusted to match OP's OG/IBU (Tinseth formula) in a 10.5g batch at 80.8% mash eff.

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Recipe: Common Room ESB - 2013.09.02
Brewer: Thadius Miller
Asst Brewer: 
Style: Extra Special/Strong Bitter (English Pale Ale)
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0) 

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 12.37 gal
Post Boil Volume: 11.02 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 10.50 gal   
Bottling Volume: 10.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.054 SG
Estimated Color: 11.4 SRM
Estimated IBU: 35.3 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 80.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 80.8 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt                   Name                                     Type          #        %/IBU         
17 lbs 11.4 oz        Pale Ale Malt, Northwestern (Great Weste Grain         1        90.9 %        
1 lbs 5.3 oz          Crystal 60, 2-Row, (Baird 50-60) (55.0 S Grain         2        6.8 %         
7.1 oz                Crystal 150, 2-Row, (Baird 115-150) (133 Grain         3        2.3 %         
3.97 oz               Goldings, East Kent [3.90 %] - Boil 60.0 Hop           4        28.6 IBUs     
0.66 oz               Fuggles [5.20 %] - Boil 20.0 min         Hop           5        3.8 IBUs      
0.66 oz               Goldings, East Kent [3.90 %] - Boil 20.0 Hop           6        2.9 IBUs      
0.25 oz               Fuggles [5.20 %] - Boil 0.0 min          Hop           7        0.0 IBUs      
0.25 oz               Goldings, East Kent [3.90 %] - Boil 0.0  Hop           8        0.0 IBUs      
2.0 pkg               SafAle English Ale (DCL/Fermentis #S-04) Yeast         9        -             


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 19 lbs 7.7 oz
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Name              Description                             Step Temperat Step Time     
Mash In           Add 24.85 qt of water at 171.4 F        154.0 F       60 min        

Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (Drain mash tun, , 8.62gal) of 168.0 F water
Notes:
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I have just pulled a pint of this from my keg. It has been in there nearly two weeks. I am a bit disappointed as I can hardly detect any EKG aroma or flavor.
Not sure why. Maybe the hops were older.

Anyway, could I dry hop in the keg with some more EKG? If so how much would you suggest and am I ok to bring the keg back up to room temp before doing this?

Thanks.
Sure. Go for it, but expect to lose a little clarity if using pellets.

I tend to hop .5 oz per 5 gal for brews such as this. YMMV.
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Sure. Go for it, but expect to lose a little clarity if using pellets.

I tend to hop .5 oz per 5 gal for brews such as this. YMMV.
I'll give it a go. It is drinkable as is but needs some hop aroma!
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