All-Grain - Miller Lite (Really Triple Hopped) - Page 3

**Mutilated1** · 06-26-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Schlenkerla

I was thinking about this, my buddy & I made one with 4 german style hops; Liberty, Hallertauer, Tettnanger, Perle. .

I would bet that would be really good too.

I've made beers similar to this and gotten great results with only 1/2 oz of Perle at 50 minutes.

I've kind of been thinking about getting an ounce each of some of those kind of hops and just mixing them all up and using about 1/2-3/4 an ounce for the bittering.

Is that basically what you did ?

I think I will continue to just leave the late and dry hops off entirely.

Did you do a cereal Mash or anything with your corn ?

I think I'm going to leave the corn out and use rice flakes or a combination of rice syrup solids and dextrose to make up the difference.

**Schlenkerla** · 06-26-2009, 05:10 PM

I calculated the 60 min hop addition to 16-18 IBUs. 0 & Dry I winged it with a full oz.

For the German I think we used;

Liberty, Hallertauer, partial packs like a 1/4 + 1/3 oz of leftovers to hit right at 18 IBUs
Tettnanger, partial pack ~.80 oz at 0 min
Perle 1oz dry leftover from a 2oz pack.

My buddy wanted to use up his partial packs so I helped him pick what hops to use at 60 so it would be on target and be done with storing partial packs of hops.

Whatever you use to bitter try to hit the target. Use software or I can calc it for you. Calculating it is pretty important for bittering. It doesn't take much to get 18 IBUs with such a small grain bill. Not to mention hallertauer can be 3.2 or 5.6 AAU. Without the calculation you can undershoot or overshoot if your not careful.

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Even a change in the late addition of say 1 oz of tetnanger going from 0 back up 5 min can bump your IBU 3-4 points.

No cereal mash. I used flaked corn and did a 90 min. infusion mash at 147F.

Try the corn, if you go with rice you're making Bud Light. Unless you want that...

I'd skip the dextrose, have either that or Lt DME if you hit a low SG.

Be advised with this small of a grain bill you might want to use a 5 gal mash tun or fill your tun with a few wal-mart bags that are stuffed with lots of bags. Bag in a bag trick. The thought to take up or insulate the air space.

**Mutilated1** · 06-26-2009, 05:43 PM

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Try the corn, if you go with rice you're making Bud Light. Unless you want that...

I might try the corn. I've been pretty happy with rice in the past though.

Silly question now, for the corn - can you use Corn Flakes ? You know like Kellogg's Corn Flakes or Post Toasties ?

scinerd3000 · 06-26-2009, 05:55 PM

this is great. Ive been trying to look for something dirt cheap i can brew up for beerpong. this is perfect!!! thanks

**Schlenkerla** · 06-26-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutilated1

I might try the corn. I've been pretty happy with rice in the past though.

Silly question now, for the corn - can you use Corn Flakes ? You know like Kellogg's Corn Flakes or Post Toasties ?

No! LOL - Use flaked corn from your home brew store.

According to Chuck's book TNCJOHB you can use cornstarch, but he step mashes in that other pale ale recipe (Its called Amaizing Pale Ale). I don't know how well corn starch works in a single-step infusion mash. The ratio was 7# of 6-row to 1# CS.

If you are going to the effort to make this, I'd use the homebrewers flaked corn its almost 1/3 of the recipe. With this small of a beer good ingredients will be paramount. The flaked corn should mash easily for you.

The book has an extract recipe if you want to try that. To me its not really the same thing.

2.25# Extra Light DME
1.5# Rice Extract Syrup
Hops to 16-18 IBU @ 60 min ~ 3.5AAU's
- 2.5 gal boil size
Irish Moss @ 10 min
1 tsp amylase enzyme in the 2ndary

RCCOLA · 06-26-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutilated1

Silly question now, for the corn - can you use Corn Flakes ? You know like Kellogg's Corn Flakes or Post Toasties ?

I posted this on another site a while back and someone HAD done it.
They said the flakes totally disentegrated,the runoff was very slow and cloudy,and the beer never cleared.
Someone else said that they had used cheerios with good success as a toasted oat sub. in an oatmeal stout.

**Schlenkerla** · 06-29-2009, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by scinerd3000

this is great. Ive been trying to look for something dirt cheap i can brew up for beerpong. this is perfect!!! thanks

Keep me posted on how this goes for you.

Right now I'm really diggin' the Sorachi Ace in this beer. When I suck in the foam right after tapping one it has a nice lemony taste. Its so refreshing with the warm weather and tastes great with the tequila-lime turkey tenderloin that I had with dinner!

**Schlenkerla** · 07-24-2009, 08:36 PM

Me and my son were getting some sun today. He needs it for his eczema.

To quench my palate, I had a few of these. I just LOVE sorachi ace dry hopped!!! The lemony taste is so good when its hot outside.

bkov · 08-09-2009, 06:43 PM

do you think it would still be good if i doubled the grains to get a higher gravity? as long as i keep the ibu the same?

also....would a crushed beano instead of the Amylase Enzyme be ok?

**Schlenkerla** · 08-09-2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bkov

do you think it would still be good if i doubled the grains to get a higher gravity? as long as i keep the ibu the same?

also....would a crushed beano instead of the Amylase Enzyme be ok?

No, the highest you want to go for the style is 1.040. If you doubled it be 1.060. Going higher kind of defeats the purpose. In a way you'd be making a malt liquor beer. I made this to be a lighter lower abv quafer. At 1.030 w/ the enzyme it still turns out to be about 4%.

I have never used beano, I would buy AE at your local brew shop. Its dirt cheap too. ~$2.00 for a bottle. This is worth at least 8-10 batches of beer if not more. Its also good for mashing. I'm not sure what the enzyme is in beano. Many have said its gotten too damn dry. To what extent I don't recall. I don't know anybody who has made good beer with beano.

You should try the recipe as is, many of my HB friends have said its pretty good for light beer. A nice beer to drink when its hot outside. The extra hops make it quite a bit better than the Miller Lt on the grociery store shelf.

Try it and tell me what you think.