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Old 06-25-2009, 08:24 PM   #11
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Its not quite the color of Miller Lite, but it really looks wonderful.

How's the all Cascade version ? That much late Cascade and Dry Hop Cascade makes me worried it would be a lot -- thats really a mouth full of Cascade in such a small beer.

I've been wanting to make an all Cascade lager for about a year now, since I read Papa Charlie's "Rocky's Raccoon" recipe.

This will probably be the next beer I try. I've made several beers similar to this, you know light beers but I haven't had the nerve to try going as low as .030 to start yet.

I've got plenty of w34/70 and a couple pounds of Cascades in the freezer from last year that need to get used up, I'll stop and get the enzyme at the brew store before this weekend.

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Old 06-25-2009, 08:31 PM   #12
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Its not quite the color of Miller Lite, but it really looks wonderful.

How's the all Cascade version ? That much late Cascade and Dry Hop Cascade makes me worried it would be a lot -- thats really a mouth full of Cascade in such a small beer.

I've been wanting to make an all Cascade lager for about a year now, since I read Papa Charlie's "Rocky's Raccoon" recipe.

This will probably be the next beer I try. I've made several beers similar to this, you know light beers but I haven't had the nerve to try going as low as .030 to start yet.

I've got plenty of w34/70 and a couple pounds of Cascades in the freezer from last year that need to get used up, I'll stop and get the enzyme at the brew store before this weekend.

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I was thinking about the color I wonder if they "Miller" add food coloring to darken it or add a little crystal. I'm ok with lighter color its more like a corona in appearance.

It was a bit much of for the cascade, at first, but it mellowed with time. I dry hopped the hell out of it tho. Once its cold its pretty good. Its brisk and refreshing. Citrusy.

I'm drinking sorachi ace right now. Its not too much.

I do believe there is a diminishing return. If I late hopped with 50% less I doubt I could have noticed the difference. I have pounds of hops so I'm eager to do late additions. I have a big harvest coming soon in August.

Try it, but let it set for a bit, so its not so crazy hoppy. If you are concerned about it, just use less.
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Note the flavor is very minimal. Were talking light beer here!!

We're on the same page with that statement.I was thinking of a way to come up with a cheap starter recipe for a guy who loves ML-so yeah,the order of the day is "less flavor is more".
He actually approached me with the question "Can you brew this beer (meaning BMers C3C recipe) with only 100 calories?"Looks like this would do it.Thanks for your time.
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Regardless of the color. The alcohol is still there!

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We're on the same page with that statement.I was thinking of a way to come up with a cheap starter recipe for a guy who loves ML-so yeah,the order of the day is "less flavor is more".
He actually approached me with the question "Can you brew this beer (meaning BMers C3C recipe) with only 100 calories?"Looks like this would do it.Thanks for your time.

You might tame down the late hops for him. The 0 & Dry could prolly be omitted or cut back slightly. Unless you think you're gonna drink most of the batch.
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How's the all Cascade version ? That much late Cascade and Dry Hop Cascade makes me worried it would be a lot -- thats really a mouth full of Cascade in such a small beer.
I was thinking about this, my buddy & I made one with 4 german style hops; Liberty, Hallertauer, Tettnanger, Perle.

If you tasted it you would NOT think its over "late" hopped, but since a cascade in this beer is so unusual it seems to be a bit heavy on the cascade.

I really thought it was a little over the top until I tasted the german-style version. Like I said let it sit for a bit or use slightly less if you want.

I served this at 40F. Forced carbed at 15psi.
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Did your efficiency go up w/ this batch?When I brewed C3C I ended up having to dilute to keep the gravity down.Chalked it up to using low amt of ingredients and using adjuncts.Ended up w/ 5.75gals and the kraeusen got up into the A/L

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Did your efficiency go up w/ this batch?When I brewed C3C I ended up having to dilute to keep the gravity down.Chalked it up to using low amt of ingredients and using adjuncts.Ended up w/ 5.75gals and the kraeusen got up into the A/L
If my efficiency goes up I'm ok with the extra ABV. I never dilute. I have a consistent Eff% of 75%. Often with 90 min mashes it goes up higher to about 85-90%.

You might even want to have some extra Lt. DME just in case it goes the other way. I have never needed it, but I do a starch conversion test too.

With this beer if you target 4.0% ABV but you get 4.5% ABV that's no problem. You know what I mean?
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Yep. My eff is normally 72% like clockwork.I'll calculate a batch at that and adj. on the next one if the OG is crazy high.

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Its not quite the color of Miller Lite, but it really looks wonderful.
I did some reading in the same book were I got this recipe. There's a recipe for Icehouse where they use a tiny amount of black malt for color.

My recipe as it stands is 2 SRMs The style range is 2-3.

If you want to hit 3 SRM with negligible calorie & cost additions add the following. According to ProMash
  • .16oz or 4.5g of Black Malt (SRM 600)
or
  • .19oz or 5.4g of Black Patent Malt. (SRM 525)
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