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Old 10-26-2010, 03:10 AM   #691
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Can someone double check this mini mash/partial boil conversion for me? Doing a small batch, just 3.5 gal to bring with me on a hunting/camping trip in December.

2 lbs 2-row
1.25 lbs flakes corn
.75 lbs flakes rice

1 lbs light DME

.5 oz each Liberty and Tettnenger hops

S-05

Mash the grains in 5qt water (90 min @ 152*)
Edit: I'll probably add a small amount of gypsum, 1 tsp?, to drop the pH a bit as I brew with water filtered from the local supermarket.
Sparge with 2 gal @ 170*
Should have ~3 gal wort left at this point
Boil, add hops for 80 min
Add DME, whirlflock, boil 10 additional minutes
Chill, move to fermentor, top off to 3.5 gal (~.75-1 gal), aerate and pitch

My math says this will be about 1041 based on low 60s efficiency and 17IBUs... Can anyone verify this should be about right? Thanks!

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Old 10-26-2010, 03:23 AM   #692
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at 70% efficiency, i get 1.041 with that extract/grain bill, ending with 3.5 gallons, so that sounds fine. when will you be adding the hops? if you were to add both at 60 minutes, i get about 28 IBU with the rager formula.

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at 70% efficiency, i get 1.041 with that extract/grain bill, ending with 3.5 gallons, so that sounds fine. when will you be adding the hops? if you were to add both at 60 minutes, i get about 28 IBU with the rager formula.
I can't remember what IBU method I built my spreadsheet with, but I'm getting 18 witn a 90 min boil after accounting for the dilution of a partial boil and the hops at 3 and 3.2% AA.

I also game up with 1041 but assumed my efficiency to be lower... Figuring on 25 pts per pound per gallon for the grains. Speaking of which, I think I figured correctly that I will have enough diastatic power to conniver the corn and rice. 70L with 2 lbs 2-row and 4 total lbs, right?

Thanks so much for taking the time to chech this, it'll be my second mini mash and the first was a disaster!
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Can someone double check this mini mash/partial boil conversion for me? Doing a small batch, just 3.5 gal to bring with me on a hunting/camping trip in December.

2 lbs 2-row
1.25 lbs flakes corn
.75 lbs flakes rice

1 lbs light DME

.5 oz each Liberty and Tettnenger hops

S-05

Mash the grains in 5qt water (90 min @ 152*)
Edit: I'll probably add a small amount of gypsum, 1 tsp?, to drop the pH a bit as I brew with water filtered from the local supermarket.
Sparge with 2 gal @ 170*
Should have ~3 gal wort left at this point
Boil, add hops for 80 min
Add DME, whirlflock, boil 10 additional minutes
Chill, move to fermentor, top off to 3.5 gal (~.75-1 gal), aerate and pitch

My math says this will be about 1041 based on low 60s efficiency and 17IBUs... Can anyone verify this should be about right? Thanks!
Welp, brewed this batch up tonight. Had some temp issues during mash (strike temp calculator seemed way off, the "rule of thumb" I've read of 5+pounds of grain over desired temp would have been right on) but stay in the 148-158 range, as far as I could tell.

Missed my target OG by .003, and efficiency was 59%, which I suppose isn't terrible for a second try at mini-mashing, with the first being a disaster, brew in a bag on an electric flattop stove. Hopefully it ferments all the way down to the target 1.005 and ends up as tasty as everyone else's!

Thanks for the help and the recipe.
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if i boil for 90 mins, would i boil the hops for 90 mins, or just add the hops after its been boiling for 60 mins??

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Sorefingers,

The total boil is 90 mins. and the hops are boiled for 60 mins. Either way, your utilization would be pretty close and with low AA% hops, the difference is negligible.

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Old 11-01-2010, 09:57 PM   #697
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boil for 30 minutes then add hops for the remaining 60 minutes.

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Old 11-06-2010, 12:06 AM   #698
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I just made this recipe and used 1oz-perle at 60, 1oz-liberty at10, and 1oz-liberty at flameout. This is an excellent beer. It may not be technically a cream ale, but I look at it as simply a lightly hopped cream ale..
Great recipe for folks looking to move from Extract to AG..

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This thread by BierMuncher gets a lot of attention. Not sure where the recipe originated, Cream Ale has been a "style" for some time now. But this base recipe has been the anchor of several beers I've done for festivals. I believe if I had tried I could have placed in some competitions with this one. The nice thing that BierMuncher points out is that this recipe can be altered and experimented with. I'm not sure I've brewed the exact same recipe twice but every one has turned out to be just what BierMuncher describes "A crowd pleaser." While it may not be a favorite among hardcore home brewers it is definitely a fav among the BMC crowd and particularly with the ladies. It is an excellent choice which I highly recommend for parties, festivals, etc. I've served variations of this at 3 festivals and this recipe is always one of the first kegs to pop. People literally ask for it by name.

My favorite variation so far was my first attempt served at a fall festival. I used 6 row barley malt and it literally looked like champagne from the color to the carbonation bubbling from bottom of the glass to the top. Watching it clear was a real thrill for me.

My second was a 2 row english pale barley malt at a different festival. It was a hot day and this beer was well appreciated by the crowd. Good head retention but more of a beer color than a champagne color.

My third attempt I threw caution to the wind and used Pilsner Malt and Lager yeast though I fermented it like any ale. It was a hot summer festival and I under carbonated it. I think heavy carbonation fills you up too much on a hot summer day. While this beer was low carbonation, low head retention the crowd woofed it down and came back for more.

The crowd wore this recipe out at all three festivals. The common theme is the light hop flavor brings out the malty flavor. Bottom line, follow BierMuncher's base recipe and proper home brewing procedures and this beer disappears in the crowd.

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Made my third batch of this back on 9-09-10.
Secondary with gelatin on 9-25-10.
Kegged 10-07-10
Tapped 10-23-10

I used my tap (city) water which has chloramine in it. I forgot to add the campden until I doughed in, so I added half to the mash and the other half to the sparge water in the HLT and stirred.

I don't have any off flavors, but the beer is cloudy like a wheat beer. I do not believe it is chill haze because I let it sit out to rise to room temp and the color remained the same.

Any idea's on the clarity issue? Would the campden in the mash cause this?

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Cream of 3 Crops
6-A Cream Ale
Author: BM HBT
Date: 9/9/10

Size: 6.0 gal
Efficiency: 92.0%
Attenuation: 78.0%
Calories: 148.75 kcal per 12.0 fl oz

Original Gravity: 1.045 (1.042 - 1.055)
Terminal Gravity: 1.010 (1.006 - 1.012)
Color: 2.23 (2.5 - 5.0)
Alcohol: 4.6% (4.2% - 5.6%)
Bitterness: 14.9 (15.0 - 20.0)

Ingredients:
7 lb American 2-row
1.5 lb Corn Flaked (Maize)
1.0 lb Minute Rice - added during boil, boiled 0.0 min
.5 oz Willamette (4.6%) - added during boil, boiled 60.0 min
.75 oz Crystal (3.3%) - added during boil, boiled 60.0 min
1.0 ea Fermentis US-05 Safale US-05

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Mashed for 90 minutes.
Boiled for 90 minutes.

Forgot Campden and added into mash and sparge water and recirculated.

Temp was set at 60-64 in fermenter. After 6 days increased to 65-70 and primary started bubbling again.

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